Which is something I haven't done, like I've said before Agar does have his short comings, his use of interchanges for one but the constant knee jerk slating of him on here is pathetic. Especially considering the fact some of the people doing it still want to compare what he's accomplished to what McRae accomplished here with a far better squad

Sean Long has been brought in to do 2 jobs.

On the playing field, and on the training pitch.

He will coach our attack, leaving Agar to go and make the tea

Hallelujah!!

Look at Brian Smith at Newcastle.

He has virtually a squad of 'unknown' players,and has turned them into contenders.

He did the same here for us.

Impressed with Agar's (or whoever) acquisitions,for next season
but next year is make or break for Agar - IMHO.

Rich Agar you are so far out of your depth it is untrue

You are a good no 2 thats it

Do you get the best out of your players,have you improved your players,do you give your players a game plan,do you have the respect of the players,are you the man to bring us success???


the answer to all those questions is no, you are not up to the job of coaching hull fc the job is too big for you, you havent got a clue tactically your interchange is a disgrace and its no good saying you dont have the tools to work with internally

it's your team, your players so instead of burying your head in the sand and putting all your eggs into next season baskets improve the players you have at your disposal or move on

Told you I knew you.....and stop hanging around MODS at sainsburys

was trying to get agar a job because he is no good as a coach, i know i will get the usual flak and i don't give a fook

[size=200I could do a better a job than him[/size

That comment is spot on, next year will be Agars team and he will live or die by it. Simple as.

I think it is a shame the way things have turned out for Agar and i would guess that a defeat away at Wakefield will signal his demise given the Hull boards recent reputation in getting rid of Kear and Sharp after similar runs of results.
To be fair to the Hull board though, Agar did look a good appointment at the time. He was an intelligent player and then served a good grounding in the lower leagues with York and then as an assistent with Hull. He looked ready to make the step up but it wasnt to be.
I just fear that situations like this one and Jimmy lowes at Wire will stop Super League clubs giving young British coaches a chance.

4 or 5 [igood[/i players should handle the job nicely. Unfortunately, the market, as it currently is, renders such financially impossible.

With us having the three year license you have got to let Agar stay for at least next season so he can build a side which is his.

The current team is full of plodders so its hard to play free flowing rugby.

The 19 man squad currently picks itself so theres no competition for places. Also we have got 7 players from the original 25 man squad injured/unavailable.

At the end of the day are still in and around the play offs, which i would of settled for after last season and as said above I think another few players would put us as genuine top 4 contenders.

Agar follows similar tactics to those pursued by Peter Sharp, though Sharp was somewhat better with bench and interchange selections.

Maybe it will be a case of getting Jon Sharpe to take the head coach role and move Agar to a subordinate position 'until he is ready'.

I know this has already been covered and i'm not alone in what i'm about to say. I have harped on about it now for a long while - the whole coaching set up at the club and the ethos around how we appraoch the game needs a huge shake up.

I, like many others, watched last nights game and while i was sat there i thought to myself on numerous occassions whoever we have in that side it wouldn't make much difference.....simply because the problem lies with the coaches and their tactics and appraoch to how the game should be played.

Any player can play to a game plan or set plays and structures, you don't have to be a world beater to fit in. Yes those players may not execute the game plan as effective as 'better skilled players' but as least they would have a go. And the game plan i'm talking about is fast play the balls (or faster play the balls) dummy runners, variation in kicking game, running angles (like Tickle for his try - the one occassion), promoting the ball, pushing through games with players supporting the ball carrier and so on.

Saints, Leeds et al have been doing this for years....regardless of who comes in and out of the respective teams.....Time for Agar to go....but we all know that aint gunna happen - neither is us challenging for anything while he is at the helm!

You're totally wrong. the majority, if not all, of that is coachable. These guys are full time professionals and these things should be drilled into them during the week so it's 2nd nature come game time. Do you think the way saints back up in waves is purely down to natural ability? It's because they practice it over and over again so it just happens on game day.

Yes, we could be more organised but it wouldn't change the fundamental problem

Look at Agar's reaction to the Leeds defeat. He gets the players in at 7am and has them running up hills. Why? Wouldn't it have been more productive to work on fast play the balls and skills training? Maybe he could even try out a second phase of attack because currently we don't have one. People can blame an inherited squad as much as they like but it is quite clear there's no game plan and who's fault is that? As for interchanges, that's a total joke.

neither of them are up to the job

Bleeding hell, I will be pushing up daisies by then.

You only have to look at what Nathan Brown is achieving at Hudds with a squad of individuals you'd hardly call world beaters. Put Agar in charge of that squad and they'd be in the bottom 5/6 teams in the competition.

Agree, he can take Sharp with him and several of the playing and coaching staff. Fresh start needed.

Totally agree.

No goinig to happen, next season will be make or break and imo rightly so.

Another season written off then due to going for a coach on the cheap. Dont we deserve better?

Just been thinking about this debate of is it the quality of players we have or is it Agar;s game plan and tactics....surely if it's the former and Agar's game plan is to be creative with dummy runners, 2nd phase attacks etc then when this doesn't happen why the hell isn't he on the touchline barking orders out?!!?

I would be. I'd be there as close to the touchline as allowed given them encouragement....telling them to get a roll on, fast plays etc....clearly it is down to Agar's tactics and game plan simple as that. He sits up in the west stands detached and as far away from the players as he can be!

Exactly, nail on the head.

A good coach shouldn't have to be down there shouting at players. He should do adequate work prior to the game to ensure that such an approach isn't necessary.

I find it a little worrying that he's obviously going to be our coach next season. His game plan, interchange policy, attacking and defensive patterns are all so inept that I wonder whether a (much needed) change in playing personnel will make sufficient difference.

Or will we have to write next year off as well?

And both points have precisely what to do with whether you can coach players to support play and provide dummy runners? This is the point we are discussing and has zero to do with ability or having a scrum half. You could pick a handful of fans from the stands and get them to run forwards and follow the ball, it's not rocket science. And your suggestion that it's got nothing to do with Agar, it's because none of the players are willing to do it is quite frankly ludicrous.