It is an incentive. But it does annoy me that picking up a decent basic salary isn't incentive enough and hasn't been incentive enough for some of our players for the last few seasons.

I get a decent bonus at work which is just that, a bonus. My basic salary is incentive enough for me to do a decent job.

Think this is a damned if they do, damned if they dont one.

Radfords out till after Easter, leaving us with 2 first choice props and they are bound to pick up knocks. Yes Fitz could fill in and Hame but i think this is the wisest decision we could have done after exploring options and missing targets (Fielden & LMS).

look at the stats between LMS and dowes, they are rather similar! makes me think dowes is probably better than i give him credit for

only major difference is LMS makes more tackle busts; but on the other hand he makes more mistakes....

so we missed out on fielden/LMS but i don't think we've done badly out of this, at the end of the day we could have lost dowes to another club by now and go into 2011 with not enough props

And me. Pair Radford/Dowes with O'Meley, and Fitzgibbon with Moa off the bench. Think it could work well.

But for context LMS played in one of the worst packs in the league. As a pairing with O'Meley for example he'd have arguably played a lot better.

I think most of us knew that we'd end up with Radford and Dowes again next season despite all the talk suggesting they'd be on their way. I have a bigger problem with Radford getting two years than Dowes getting one - like Hutchie says, Radders will be out until Easter but somehow we gave him two more years,

Easter's end of April next year, so he'll miss at least the first 12 rounds.

Dont underestimate Radders role coaching of the U15s. Really positive feedback from the players and a few Robins have jumped ship to join the set up.

i can't see why people are thinking we have signed him back up purely cos fielden and lms turned us down?? the club offered him this 1 year reduced terms deal before the season finished,and he has now accepted.he may not have the aggression what o'meley,moa,or even hame have but as a SQUAD player/BACKUP prop he's a good one to have.his record regarding injuries is also a bonus.if westerman comes then fine,but i think our priority is in the halves,not the forwards.

I'm not underestimating the impact he has on the kids and that is a positive. However, he is on the salary cap for the next two seasons and needs to be judged on his playing performances. If he is great with the kids then maybe a coaching role in that area of the club might have been a better idea. Only a thought.

I personally suspect that although we offered both he and Radford 1 year reduced deals, securing a new prop would have meant one of them being retracted. When we didn't get anyone in, we therefore still had 2 spots to fill. I don't think we'd have really needed Moa, O'Meley, Dowes, Radford and AN Other as well when we already have Fitzgibbon and Lauaki to move up/offer cover.

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