I still believe theres enough of the season for Agar to disappear. I also think the playoffs are more than achievable if the players want it.

You have said it all there mate.

Out of our next 11 games, there are 5 games that I feel we could win, and 6 that I think that we won't win.

5 games that we 'could' win - Salford, Castleford, Bradford, Wigan and Celtic.

6 games that I don't think that we would win - Warrington, Leeds, KR, Shudds, Catalans, 'quins.

Exactly.

For me, top 6 would be a brilliant result given were we are at the moment.
I just want 100% commitment from the players in every game. Think things will take care of themselves after that.

My opinion don't think we will win any of them 3

out of those 6 though shudds and Quine are home games we should win, we generally do well in France and anything can happen in a derby.

looking at the way other teams are shaping up,hull could quite easily lose them all..but could win them all too.

is that fence comfortable?

Is that called edging your bets.

We should have won our last 6 at home but haven't

so why call for agars head

even saints??

We don't deserve to make the play-offs on form thus far, and would be embarrassed if we did.

Serious question, let's take the possible scenario that we don't win another game this season. Will Agar still be in charge by the end of the year regardless? If not, how many more defeats will it take to reach the point of getting rid? IMO Rovers might do us a favour - another derby spanking could be the tipping point.

If we don't win another game this season and Agar is still in charge then it will be no pass for me next season.
He should go after tonight's game if we lose.

Geting into the 8.

He should but wont.

Don't think those 3 are in the right category!!

don't think anything changes after tonight result

this season we've beaten Wigan, Catalan, Hudds, Salford twice, Bradford, Castleford and Celtic.

of those only 2 currently sit in the top8: Huddersfield and Castleford

whilst tonight saw improved efforts from many players, that is the level of effort they should be putting in every week!

This is not the time for Agar to go. PS dismantled a team that had real potential on the back of Jk's dismissal. He came in as the disciplinarian, which did not work. Agar deserves a chance at least to the end of 2010, if he does not perform then he must go. I'm sure he knows this himself.

No way will we make the top 8 - Theres more chance on Cristiano Ronaldo making an £80 million move to Wycombe!!.

Unfortunately listing to Rule, even if we lose every match this season than Agar will still start next season as coach.

Above all else I'd just like to see a few changes. The almost resignation that the current 'tactics' and team selections are the best we have to offer is both infuriating and depressing.

FFS Agar, grow a pair and shake things up a bit!

too long, no time to wait

if you were 75 years old sat reading that comment what would be goin thru your mind?

"at least 2010?? jesus i may have popped me clogs by then, i cant wait that long, my own days are numbered."

not fair on the older generation of fans who have seen enough crap in their lifetimes. they should act now instead of pussyfooting around like they have been doing these past few years.

He shook things up tonight and dropped Whiting

who i think has been excellent since his return.So much for the shake up he (Agar) has gone on about in the press.

Because he's cack, Clueless, Out of his depth . The players are just going through the motions imo.

For me Agar is too nice and lacks the steel thats needed to be a head coach. Couldn't bring himself to replace Radford as captain so he promotes Thorman and Cusack as vice captains. He allows Thorman to take all penalties and drop-outs when tickle can kick 3 times further. Threatens a clear out end of last season yet keeps signing up the inadequate players and no bottle to drop those who play poorly. I just can't ever see the guy totally losing it in the dressing room with under performing players.

Only way to get the best out of the players is a completely clean sweep of the club. A new coach who doesn't know the players and doesn't go on reputations. Otherwise we can expect the same c**p week in week out.