Holmes a doubt already be lucky to play ten games, been managed all through pre season too

[quote="Faithful One":2v6wxpj4]I think when I joined this forum people were having similar debates around players like Dowes, Cusack and Josh Cordoba [/quote:2v6wxpj4] Loved a fight did Cordoba, think he had more fights than games played for us

[quote="Faithful One":dvfio8l5]I think when I joined this forum people were having similar debates around players like Dowes, Cusack and Josh Cordoba [/quote:dvfio8l5] Dowes and Cusack would look like prime Webcke and Civoniceva compared to some of our current/recent props.

[quote="Cuddleclub":242ciqmq]Holmes a doubt already be lucky to play ten games, been managed all through pre season too[/quote:242ciqmq] Chamberlin in the same boat imo .

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[quote="B0NES":3rvq2cbv]Chamberlin in the same boat imo .[/quote:3rvq2cbv] Was both meh signings, even more so if they aren’t available often. Worrying when we’ve already let two go, very short especially in the second row.

So is Chamberlain available for Friday? Call me cynical but radio silence on these things is never usually good news, thought it would at least be clarified either way in the article but no specific mention.

[quote="DSJ1983":1j8smczc]So is Chamberlain available for Friday? Call me cynical but radio silence on these things is never usually good news, thought it would at least be clarified either way in the article but no specific mention.[/quote:1j8smczc] Says Holmes is the only “senior” player who’s a doubt. But nothing specific been mentioned about chamberlain.

[quote="TnT":27bb8967]I think I’m missing something because amongst all the poop last year notwithstanding a couple of disciplinary problems thought Fash was ok. I think the same about Lane who got player of the season for what that was worth. I guess my thing with fan criticism of players is that we can miss some things they do that perhaps only those in the know, ie teammates and coaches, appreciate. I’m an average fan but I try to see off the ball stuff, I look for geeing up of teammates etc and I look at stats. Doesn’t make me any better than other fans I just think that only appreciating 40 tackles a game cut out passes and tackle busts is missing the whole story of player contribution[/quote:27bb8967] Wasn't Fash's average gain last season about 5.3m? Needs to be better for a prop

I haven't listened, so unsure if it gives an explanation, but any idea why Jordan Lane replaced Sezer on Humberside tonight? Hopefully nothing to worry about...

[quote="Cuddleclub":18jcc3f9]Says Holmes is the only “senior” player who’s a doubt. But nothing specific been mentioned about chamberlain.[/quote:18jcc3f9] Just seems odd phrasing to me. I suppose if Chamberlain is injured he’s technically not a doubt. Just seems strange that it’s not been mentioned at all when he went off with an injury in a friendly.

Sezer was supposed to be on Humberside tonight but had the lurgee. Hopefully he's good for Friday

With Holmes a doubt this would be what I’d go with Moy Martin Hardaker Rapana Barron Cust Sezer Ese Ese Bourouh Aydin Cartwright Lane Asiata Ashworth Sao Balmforth Chamberlain Alternative could be to start chamberlain, move rapana to full back with moy on bench to bring on to change the game if required

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0kqm ... are-mobile Cartwright pre game presser on Humberside

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0kqm ... are-mobile Cartwright pre game presser on Humberside

Fash was poor pretty much all of last season. When he wasn't injured he looked like he wanted to start a fight with anyone in the general vicinity, his previously ok defence took a dive and his go forward was virtually non existent. He needs a big season

[quote="Cuddleclub":20bw8jco]Holmes a doubt already be lucky to play ten games, been managed all through pre season too[/quote:20bw8jco] Its going to be another Abdull disaster could be another that Myler has to pay off

[del:2wd73nm2][/del:2wd73nm2][quote="bonaire":2wd73nm2]Its going to be another Abdull disaster could be another that Myler has to pay off[/quote:2wd73nm2] Abdul disaster? They paid him off instead of having him sat in the stands. They'll possibly do the same with Holmes if required. They can afford to do that. Hardly a disaster. A disaster would have been retaining Cam Scott on a mega contract and see him play 6 to 8 games all season.

[quote="BESTY":8r8wzo9f][del:8r8wzo9f][/del:8r8wzo9f]Abdul disaster? They paid him off instead of having him sat in the stands. They'll possibly do the same with Holmes if required. They can afford to do that. Hardly a disaster. A disaster would have been retaining Cam Scott on a mega contract and see him play 6 to 8 games all season.[/quote:8r8wzo9f] Abdul had the no.6 shirt and was using one of our 3 marquee quota spots, we're now going into the season as a playmaker short and should anything happen to sezer/cust long term, cover is a bit thin on the ground...you could argue it's a bit of a disaster.

Abdull was a high risk move which hasn't paid off unfortunately. There was a chance that at this point we'd be looking forward to seeing him line up against a former club in 2 days. I found it interesting when Abdull signed he made a comment that he hadn't spoken to Cartwright but had "heard good things" or something like that. Maybe Cartwright just didn't rate him. I'm not sure the signing was a "disaster".

[quote="bonaire":vyfavhln]Its going to be another Abdull disaster could be another that Myler has to pay off[/quote:vyfavhln] As I said in a previous post. Depends what’s in the contract they sign.

[quote="Steve0":14iodbbh]Abdul had the no.6 shirt and was using one of our 3 marquee quota spots, we're now going into the season as a playmaker short and should anything happen to sezer/cust long term, cover is a bit thin on the ground...you could argue it's a bit of a disaster.[/quote:14iodbbh] We are still short of a playmaker or at least some creativity IMO, but it’s not like signing Abdull prevented us signing anyone else. He was signed early doors and we still went for Lam and Sailor, possibly Sullivan and signed Cust and Sezer after. It was a gamble that was taken because he would have qualified for a big dispensation on the salary cap because he came through the academy, it was a unique situation. Looking at who was available maybe we could have signed someone like Olly Russell as a third senior half instead of doing the JA deal, but there’s an argument to say that long term Charles or Kemp might work out better for the club anyway then that.

[quote="Steve0":2yq921y5]Abdul had the no.6 shirt and was using one of our 3 marquee quota spots, we're now going into the season as a playmaker short and should anything happen to sezer/cust long term, cover is a bit thin on the ground...you could argue it's a bit of a disaster.[/quote:2yq921y5] My question is, who would you have signed instead of Abdul to play half. There weren’t many domestic 6’s available. Club also rate Jack Charles highly so exposure should do him good. But on topic, hopefully we put in a decent performance. Catalan look shaky. Control the ruck and I’m hopeful we can be in with a shot. Win or lose, I’ve missed it

I’m going to be boring here and hopefully FC match me We need 80% completion No penalties No 6 agains We’re not good enough to be flash yet

[quote="Tarquin Fuego":1zz29kgw]I’m going to be boring here and hopefully FC match me We need 80% completion No penalties No 6 agains We’re not good enough to be flash yet[/quote:1zz29kgw] Spot on. Win the game of attrition and later on players like Rapana, Moy & Martin will find some space. Think the pack decide this one

I think everyone agrees, Cartwright and Myler included, that our squad isn't currently ideal but this is a multi-year project and I think we'll see some more movement before the season is out.