FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Hull FC > Longy
500 posts in 34 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Kosh , Roland_R , Karen
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach14158No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
40284_1492546122.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40284.jpg



Quote: Sheldon "Even though it's a live cap and you can back load contracts if memory serves me right you can't have a player on no salary or even very little.

I'd be interested to see what room were making with no win bounses.'"

Win bonuses don't count iirc, as long as a players bonus is not disproportionate to his wage.

Don't think we'll even consider the idea, unless Leigh do go under and he's practically given to us.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator36786
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2024May 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
6505_1460484023.jpg
[i:10za56ci]Hold on to me baby, his bony hands will do you no harm It said in the cards, we lost our souls to the Nameless One[/i:10za56ci]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6505.jpg

Moderator


Just to put a few misconceptions about the Salary Cap to bed...

1. The 'live cap' just means that a club's SC is assessed continually during the year and that clubs have to get permission for any transaction that changes their SC during the season.

2. Wages count for the full year as soon as a player takes part in a single SC relevant match. It doesn't matter if he leaves mid-season, or even joins mid-season - his wages count as if he is available and playing for the entire season.

3. De-registration does not affect cap liability due to 2 above.

4. Win bonuses DO count. Prize money doesn't.

Cap regulations are available in Section E of the rlOperational Rulesrl.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach14158No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
40284_1492546122.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40284.jpg



Quote: Kosh "Just to put a few misconceptions about the Salary Cap to bed...

1. The 'live cap' just means that a club's SC is assessed continually during the year and that clubs have to get permission for any transaction that changes their SC during the season.

2. Wages count for the full year as soon as a player takes part in a single SC relevant match. It doesn't matter if he leaves mid-season, or even joins mid-season - his wages count as if he is available and playing for the entire season.

3. De-registration does not affect cap liability due to 2 above.

4. Win bonuses DO count. Prize money doesn't.

Cap regulations are available in Section E of the rlOperational Rulesrl.'"

So, a player plays one game, is then transferred to another club (not necessarily the clubs fault) his full salary is counted? Sorry, I just don't see it being as black & white as that.

The first and second points contradict each other aswell.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach22320No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024Sep 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
23521.jpg
[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x] [quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.     Regards,   Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg



Quote: east hull FC fan "So, a player plays one game, is then transferred to another club (not necessarily the clubs fault) his full salary is counted? Sorry, I just don't see it being as black & white as that.'"


Not if you stopped paying him, why would Long leave the club without the rest of this years salary?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach14158No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
40284_1492546122.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40284.jpg



Quote: Sheldon "Not if you stopped paying him, why would Long leave the club without the rest of this years salary?'"

I'm not saying he would.

Doesn't matter anyway, the way the rules are wrote, even if we don't pay him it still counts.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach22320No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024Sep 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
23521.jpg
[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x] [quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.     Regards,   Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg



No if we agreed a release with him we could do it, or even loan a couple of players out for the rest of the season.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member43413
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2024Sep 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
3614_1281651917.jpg
[url:2qyny6du]https://twitter.com/Mr_Hutchie[/url:2qyny6du] [b:2qyny6du]@Mr_Hutchie[/b:2qyny6du] [url:2qyny6du]http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/hullwykearlfc/[/url:2qyny6du]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3614.jpg



Quote: east hull FC fan "So, a player plays one game, is then transferred to another club (not necessarily the clubs fault) his full salary is counted? Sorry, I just don't see it being as black & white as that.

The first and second points contradict each other aswell.'"



It does by the rules, but they can apply to have it dispensated , so in theory only the actual payments will count

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach14158No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
40284_1492546122.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40284.jpg



Quote: Sheldon "No if we agreed a release with him we could do it, or even loan a couple of players out for the rest of the season.'"

I said a couple of pages back that we should be looking to negotiate a release. Who could we loan out? Washy?

The problem with offering settlement is that if we approach Long it's immediately in his favour. Can't see us getting much change from that scenario.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach14158No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
40284_1492546122.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40284.jpg



Quote: Hutchie "It does by the rules, but they can apply to have it dispensated , so in theory only the actual payments will count'"

Which is why I said it can't be that straight cut, and points 1 & 2 contradict each other.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach22320No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024Sep 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
23521.jpg
[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x] [quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.     Regards,   Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg



Washys injured as is Cunningham.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator36786
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2024May 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
6505_1460484023.jpg
[i:10za56ci]Hold on to me baby, his bony hands will do you no harm It said in the cards, we lost our souls to the Nameless One[/i:10za56ci]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6505.jpg

Moderator


Quote: east hull FC fan "So, a player plays one game, is then transferred to another club (not necessarily the clubs fault) his full salary is counted? Sorry, I just don't see it being as black & white as that.

The first and second points contradict each other aswell.'"

Sorry - should have clarified point 2. If the player transfers out to another club without a payoff then the salary doesn't count. I was thinking of the 'get rid' statements and paying off a contract.

Points one and two don't contradict each other.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach14158No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
40284_1492546122.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40284.jpg



Quote: Kosh "Sorry - should have clarified point 2. If the player transfers out to another club without a payoff then the salary doesn't count. I was thinking of the 'get rid' statements and paying off a contract.

Points one and two don't contradict each other.'"

They don't now you've clarified it.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator36786
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2024May 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
6505_1460484023.jpg
[i:10za56ci]Hold on to me baby, his bony hands will do you no harm It said in the cards, we lost our souls to the Nameless One[/i:10za56ci]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6505.jpg

Moderator


Quote: east hull FC fan "They don't now you've clarified it.'"

That's why I mentioned it. icon_smile.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7355
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Aug 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
39176.jpg
:39176.jpg



Laughed hard at this tonight:

TherealSeanLong:
What about Bolt saying, he will play for man utd, is he mental??

1 min later:

TherealSeanLong
Dwayne chambers tried to play rugby league... He was !!

icon_lol.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach30157
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
32641_1503834456.jpg
The poor man's bonaire:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_32641.jpg



Quote: tommyfromhull "Laughed hard at this tonight:

TherealSeanLong:
What about Bolt saying, he will play for man utd, is he mental??

1 min later:

TherealSeanLong
Dwayne chambers tried to play rugby league... He was !!


Hilarious

500 posts in 34 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Kosh , Roland_R , Karen
500 posts in 34 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Kosh , Roland_R , Karen



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


5.19140625:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Round 26 Wigan Away
Once were Lo
144
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
9s
Shareholders Meeting
Scarlet Pimp
36
14s
Huddersfiels to get new stadium
Huddersfield
1
18s
Rumours thread
Shifty Cat
2200
20s
Merger with Huddersfield
Bullseye
52
21s
Round 27 HKR Away
FlyingScotty
5
22s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Jack Burton
2325
23s
Salford H Moved to Thursday
Zig
74
26s
Film game
Boss Hog
3702
31s
Squad for London
just_browny
15
31s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
scarrie
3128
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Saints
Cokey
1
TODAY
Round 27 HKR Away
FlyingScotty
5
TODAY
Squad for London
just_browny
15
TODAY
Hull FC preview
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
Halifax A
Wigan Bull
4
TODAY
East stand
PopTart
12
TODAY
Locations of League
Wollo-Wollo-
1
TODAY
Matt Parcell to leave at seasons end
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Huddersfiels to get new stadium
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
IMG
Fantastic Mr
2
TODAY
Leaving players
Murphy
1
TODAY
bulls on Sunday
Hudd-Shay
11
TODAY
Concerts at Stadiums
Fantastic Mr
11
TODAY
Finn out Murrell in
Ilkley Fax
9
TODAY
Playoff Semi Final
MattyB
3
TODAY
Bulls Accounts up to Nov 2023
Wigan Bull
11
TODAY
Shareholders Meeting
Scarlet Pimp
36
TODAY
James Clark
Jake the Peg
6
TODAY
Le Cats at home - Los Alomos Custers Last Stand
BP1
23
TODAY
Realistic targets for 2025
the cal trai
31
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 27
FoxyRhino
16
TODAY
Club Statement
UllFC
49
TODAY
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside York Knights Challenge
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Old FC when we knew how to play rugby
mk_fc
5
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition London Home
karetaker
7
TODAY
Dons v Widnes - Sunday 15 September 2024
Kick and cha
6
TODAY
Catalans Keep Season Alive With Victory Over The Broncos
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
728
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
535
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
518
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
583
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
988
Salford Close In On The Play O..
948
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1070
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
1027
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
1070
Wane Names Provisional Squad f..
1451
Leeds Rhinos Ride Their Luck F..
1387
Wigan Warriors Level Top As Ca..
1472
Castleford Tigers Inflict Anot..
1460
Leigh Into the Six After Beati..
1656
Five Into Three - Our Top Six ..
2224