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| Quote: Sheldon "Even though it's a live cap and you can back load contracts if memory serves me right you can't have a player on no salary or even very little.
I'd be interested to see what room were making with no win bounses.'"
Win bonuses don't count iirc, as long as a players bonus is not disproportionate to his wage.
Don't think we'll even consider the idea, unless Leigh do go under and he's practically given to us.
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| Just to put a few misconceptions about the Salary Cap to bed...
1. The 'live cap' just means that a club's SC is assessed continually during the year and that clubs have to get permission for any transaction that changes their SC during the season.
2. Wages count for the full year as soon as a player takes part in a single SC relevant match. It doesn't matter if he leaves mid-season, or even joins mid-season - his wages count as if he is available and playing for the entire season.
3. De-registration does not affect cap liability due to 2 above.
4. Win bonuses DO count. Prize money doesn't.
Cap regulations are available in Section E of the rlOperational Rulesrl.
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| Quote: Kosh "Just to put a few misconceptions about the Salary Cap to bed...
1. The 'live cap' just means that a club's SC is assessed continually during the year and that clubs have to get permission for any transaction that changes their SC during the season.
2. Wages count for the full year as soon as a player takes part in a single SC relevant match. It doesn't matter if he leaves mid-season, or even joins mid-season - his wages count as if he is available and playing for the entire season.
3. De-registration does not affect cap liability due to 2 above.
4. Win bonuses DO count. Prize money doesn't.
Cap regulations are available in Section E of the rlOperational Rulesrl.'"
So, a player plays one game, is then transferred to another club (not necessarily the clubs fault) his full salary is counted? Sorry, I just don't see it being as black & white as that.
The first and second points contradict each other aswell.
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "So, a player plays one game, is then transferred to another club (not necessarily the clubs fault) his full salary is counted? Sorry, I just don't see it being as black & white as that.'"
Not if you stopped paying him, why would Long leave the club without the rest of this years salary?
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| Quote: Sheldon "Not if you stopped paying him, why would Long leave the club without the rest of this years salary?'"
I'm not saying he would.
Doesn't matter anyway, the way the rules are wrote, even if we don't pay him it still counts.
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
Regards,
Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg |
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| No if we agreed a release with him we could do it, or even loan a couple of players out for the rest of the season.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "So, a player plays one game, is then transferred to another club (not necessarily the clubs fault) his full salary is counted? Sorry, I just don't see it being as black & white as that.
The first and second points contradict each other aswell.'"
It does by the rules, but they can apply to have it dispensated , so in theory only the actual payments will count
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| Quote: Sheldon "No if we agreed a release with him we could do it, or even loan a couple of players out for the rest of the season.'"
I said a couple of pages back that we should be looking to negotiate a release. Who could we loan out? Washy?
The problem with offering settlement is that if we approach Long it's immediately in his favour. Can't see us getting much change from that scenario.
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| Quote: Hutchie "It does by the rules, but they can apply to have it dispensated , so in theory only the actual payments will count'"
Which is why I said it can't be that straight cut, and points 1 & 2 contradict each other.
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
Regards,
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| Washys injured as is Cunningham.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "So, a player plays one game, is then transferred to another club (not necessarily the clubs fault) his full salary is counted? Sorry, I just don't see it being as black & white as that.
The first and second points contradict each other aswell.'"
Sorry - should have clarified point 2. If the player transfers out to another club without a payoff then the salary doesn't count. I was thinking of the 'get rid' statements and paying off a contract.
Points one and two don't contradict each other.
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| Quote: Kosh "Sorry - should have clarified point 2. If the player transfers out to another club without a payoff then the salary doesn't count. I was thinking of the 'get rid' statements and paying off a contract.
Points one and two don't contradict each other.'"
They don't now you've clarified it.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "They don't now you've clarified it.'"
That's why I mentioned it.
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| Laughed hard at this tonight:
TherealSeanLong:
What about Bolt saying, he will play for man utd, is he mental??
1 min later:
TherealSeanLong
Dwayne chambers tried to play rugby league... He was !!
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| Quote: tommyfromhull "Laughed hard at this tonight:
TherealSeanLong:
What about Bolt saying, he will play for man utd, is he mental??
1 min later:
TherealSeanLong
Dwayne chambers tried to play rugby league... He was !!
Hilarious
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