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| Quote: hullbg "You make a point about radford coming out of retirement on a thread about radford as a coach. Strange how I presume you think this has some relation to his coaching ability.'"
90% of posts on this forum have no or very little relevance to the thread. I look forward to you pointing this out.
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| Let's hope he gets things right early on because if we don't win a decent number of those 8 home games then we will get dragged into the relegation equation
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| Quote: Diablo1967 "8 weeks should give him enough time to win over doubters.
What we HAVE to avoid is the old excuse we've seen for years - "Well, we'll judge him when he has his own team". A decent coach should be able to take ANY team and get something out of them.'"
fair point, peter sharp certainly did. but then you get the other side of the coin where folk say he was lucky, he inherited a good team.
coaches can't win
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| Radder's and perfect coach in the same sentence...delusional at best..
we've a decent team that can win some games no matter if mickey mouse was in charge, but Radders isn't the person for the job and never was in a million years, not even close. Needs to be a coach at a championship club for a fair few years before he gets anywhere near a SL club never mind one that wants to win trophies.
Gentle should have been given another season after the 2 seasons of improvements over what we had before. Some of the players let Gentle down, not the other way round...it's going to be another mediocre season rather than the potential of another improvement..you can't keep getting rid of coaches whom have bettered what went before..still the majority here and clearly AP think they know what makes a world beating coach.
IF we have a worse record this season than the last two then I expect Radders to be out of a job, I can only ask for consistancy from the owner or is that Radders is a cheap option and AP is mugging us off...
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Radder's and perfect coach in the same sentence...delusional at best..
we've a decent team that can win some games no matter if mickey mouse was in charge, but Radders isn't the person for the job and never was in a million years, not even close. Needs to be a coach at a championship club for a fair few years before he gets anywhere near a SL club never mind one that wants to win trophies.
Gentle should have been given another season after the 2 seasons of improvements over what we had before. Some of the players let Gentle down, not the other way round...it's going to be another mediocre season rather than the potential of another improvement..you can't keep getting rid of coaches whom have bettered what went before..still the majority here and clearly AP think they know what makes a world beating coach.
IF we have a worse record this season than the last two then I expect Radders to be out of a job, I can only ask for consistancy from the owner or is that Radders is a cheap option and AP is mugging us off...'"
Some of the players did indeed let Gentle down and they will probably let Radford down too.
If what Gentle delivered was not acceptable to AP how can Radford expect to keep his job unless he does better thn Gentle?
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| My gut feeling on this is that it is too soon for Radford to be a head coach. I would have much rather seen him get a few more years under his belt as an assistant.
I hope he proves me wrong. The fixture list hasn't been kind to him with us having so many home games so early on. He'll need the team to gel pretty quickly otherwise it could be tough. And that won't be easy as it looks like he still has to address the issue of getting the team to perform week in week out which has plagued our previous coaches for years.
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| Quote: Doc Brown "My gut feeling on this is that it is too soon for Radford to be a head coach. I would have much rather seen him get a few more years under his belt as an assistant.
I hope he proves me wrong. The fixture list hasn't been kind to him with us having so many home games so early on. He'll need the team to gel pretty quickly otherwise it could be tough. And that won't be easy as it looks like he still has to address the issue of getting the team to perform week in week out which has plagued our previous coaches for years.'"
He's had a full pre-season to address that but on the basis of Bradford and Featherstone there is a long way to go.
You are right about the fixture list though. We need a good start. As they have apparently all been training the house down, lets hope we get one.
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| Quote: Diogenes "He's had a full pre-season to address that but on the basis of Bradford and Featherstone there is a long way to go.
You are right about the fixture list though. We need a good start. As they have apparently all been training the house down, lets hope we get one.'"
By the time June comes around you need to have at least 10 maybe 12 points in the bag otherwise I would be surprised if AP doesn't wield the axe even after his comments earlier this week.
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| Radders will get a fair crack of the whip from me.
We were utter garbage in more than a few games last season so just hoping we can reach a more consistent all round plateau.
Is the current squad instilling me with confidence that this is possible?
Negative!
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| I am willing to give Radford at least half a season to see how he progresses. However, something that doesn't really add up is this image that is portrayed of him being such a tough disciplinarian compared with him as FC captain. Many on here will remember lambasting the guy for being a poor captain, many of the similar qualities he now seems to have suddenly developed to improve discipline within the club. I am yet to be convinced.
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| For me he saw we had a problem with Watts & Green out injured (or not performing in pre season) and he went out and addressed that with teh signing of Carvell.
That for me is a good start, we would have just moaned about injuries in the past, Carvell is the Grunt prop we all wanted.
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| Quote: FCFaithful Stu "I am willing to give Radford at least half a season to see how he progresses. However, something that doesn't really add up is this image that is portrayed of him being such a tough disciplinarian compared with him as FC captain. Many on here will remember lambasting the guy for being a poor captain, many of the similar qualities he now seems to have suddenly developed to improve discipline within the club. I am yet to be convinced.'"
This is something else I've never understood.
When is a captain a good captain? Is it based on results, or is it simply based on "opinions"?
Some posters said Radford was a bad captain, and now many on here believe it must be true, and so now it means he cannot possibly be a good coach.
I've only been watching Hull for 55 years, and believe it or not, I can't remember getting home after a match and thinking "I thought the team captain was terrible today."
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| Quote: ccs "This is something else I've never understood.
When is a captain a good captain? Is it based on results, or is it simply based on "opinions"?
Some posters said Radford was a bad captain, and now many on here believe it must be true, and so now it means he cannot possibly be a good coach.
I've only been watching Hull for 55 years, and believe it or not, I can't remember getting home after a match and thinking "I thought the team captain was terrible today."'"
I've been a fan a shorter time, and I have often got home and thought the captain was inept, Radford never seemed to be rallying the troops, he was always stood with his hands on his hips puffing like Ivor the Engine.
I don't like the guy, but I will give him my support for the first 8 games and see where we are after that, his recruitment has been, in my mind, questionable, to say the least. But we shall see, I hope I am on here again in early June apologising for doubting him.
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| I wouldn't say he was a bad captain but nor was he an outstandingly good one. His captaincy skills have got nothing to do with his coaching ability anyway.
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| Quote: Diogenes "I wouldn't say he was a bad captain but nor was he an outstandingly good one. His captaincy skills have got nothing to do with his coaching ability anyway.'"
I think leadership abilities and the ability to get your players fired up are pretty important to both roles.
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