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Quote: R.B.A "I went to the England v Cumbria game a couple of weeks back and i thought that Dowes first stint on the park was the best i have seen him play in 4 years. Broke tackles and got a couple of good off-loads away.
It is Richard Agars job to get him to replicate that form in a Hull shirt. There-in lies your problem.'"


Makes you wonder why there wasnt a clamour for his signature from other super league clubs..

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Quote: knocker norton "Makes you wonder why there wasnt a clamour for his signature from other super league clubs..'"



Perhaps the likes of Wakey, Cas and Bradford who were rumoured to have held talks with him were not prepared to pay him at the same level as Hull are..?

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Quote: R.B.A "I went to the England v Cumbria game a couple of weeks back and i thought that Dowes first stint on the park was the best i have seen him play in 4 years. Broke tackles and got a couple of good off-loads away.
It is Richard Agars job to get him to replicate that form in a Hull shirt. There-in lies your problem.'"


TBF he was only playing against England, lets get things into perspective icon_wink.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: R.B.A "Perhaps the likes of Wakey, Cas and Bradford who were rumoured to have held talks with him were not prepared to pay him at the same level as Hull are..?'"


I think a change of scenery may have actually done him good on this occasion though I am not unhappy that he provides us with depth in the squad.

As mentionned earlier he hasnt performed at the high standards he set since 2006 and by going on that course type thingy in 2008/09 kind of shows that he was trying something differnent to try to recapture that form.

For me he must look across at Moa, O Meley, Radders and Fitz and know that if he doesnt perform then he is unlikely to get much game time unless he produces this Cumbria type form.

I hope he does for Hull's benefit.

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Quote: R.B.A "Perhaps the likes of Wakey, Cas and Bradford who were rumoured to have held talks with him were not prepared to pay him at the same level as Hull are..?'"


That Hull were. We've reduced our offer to him which is likely to be nearer or the same as what they offered him.

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Quote: Big Dave T "That Hull were. We've reduced our offer to him which is likely to be nearer or the same as what they offered him.'"


I think you can safely say Dowes did not re sign for Hull because of the money! icon_lol.gif

Maybe thinks he can play well enough to earn another year on top off next year and qualify for a testimonial?

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Quote: knocker norton "I think you can safely say Dowes did not re sign for Hull because of the money!
Indeed. I'd be surprised if our reduced offer wasn't his only SL offer in the end.

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Quote: berro's best mate "agreed, and on the back of sigNing radford for another 2 years makes the club a disgrace in my opinion...do the board actually think we will be challenging for honours with these two in the aquad? i dont, there 1. not good enough and 2. past there best....
no season renewal for me until these sort of players are shown the door at last...oh wait amit, radfords got another year after this andlongy wants another year news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 105107.stm

Dowes hints at the incentive another contract would provide ie a testimonial.

The fact that Dowes is playing for a new contract and potential testimonial next year is a hell of an incentive for the player to perform which can only benefit Hull FC.
Quote: knocker norton "

Maybe thinks he can play well enough to earn another year on top off next year and qualify for a testimonial?'"


news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 105107.stm

Dowes hints at the incentive another contract would provide ie a testimonial.

The fact that Dowes is playing for a new contract and potential testimonial next year is a hell of an incentive for the player to perform which can only benefit Hull FC.


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Quote: knocker norton "news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/hull/9105107.stm

Dowes hints at the incentive another contract would provide ie a testimonial.

The fact that Dowes is playing for a new contract and potential testimonial next year is a hell of an incentive for the player to perform which can only benefit Hull FC.'"


It is an incentive. But it does annoy me that picking up a decent basic salary isn't incentive enough and hasn't been incentive enough for some of our players for the last few seasons.

I get a decent bonus at work which is just that, a bonus. My basic salary is incentive enough for me to do a decent job.

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Think this is a damned if they do, damned if they dont one.

Radfords out till after Easter, leaving us with 2 first choice props and they are bound to pick up knocks. Yes Fitz could fill in and Hame but i think this is the wisest decision we could have done after exploring options and missing targets (Fielden & LMS).

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look at the stats between LMS and dowes, they are rather similar! makes me think dowes is probably better than i give him credit for

only major difference is LMS makes more tackle busts; but on the other hand he makes more mistakes....

so we missed out on fielden/LMS but i don't think we've done badly out of this, at the end of the day we could have lost dowes to another club by now and go into 2011 with not enough props

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Quote: Sheldon "We could run with three props but I'm not sure moa can do 60mins.

For me fitz to prop.'"


And me. Pair Radford/Dowes with O'Meley, and Fitzgibbon with Moa off the bench. Think it could work well.

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Quote: monkeyshoes "look at the stats between LMS and dowes, they are rather similar! makes me think dowes is probably better than i give him credit for

only major difference is LMS makes more tackle busts; but on the other hand he makes more mistakes....

so we missed out on fielden/LMS but i don't think we've done badly out of this, at the end of the day we could have lost dowes to another club by now and go into 2011 with not enough props'"


But for context LMS played in one of the worst packs in the league. As a pairing with O'Meley for example he'd have arguably played a lot better.

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