Yup, that was my point really. Dobson the world beater may suddenly become Dobson the average liability.

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Hall was dropped after filling in at F/B and out of posistion and came back a better player for it and scored tries for fun....no shame in being loaned out and i bet he still scored more trys after he came back than Welham did all season.

As for Dobson and Long....was Dobson playing in the play-offs and at Least long could tackle the Wigan players unlike Dobson......has he still got Richards boot marks on his shirt where he ran over him.

Moi Moi unveiled on Monday just before the Online lie detector test !!

Cant you at least wait till our squad is complete before we make any judgements, 2 good signings, possibly even 1 and the pack looks good again.

Kevin Penny made the dream team....dream team means sod all.

Same can be said about some of your players.

So your judging him on one game now?

Long is past it, never wanted to leave Saints and it will show next season.

Why do you think i didnt put Fitz and O'Meley in Hurry up...my idiot is waiting after a post like that.

I can sense the fear from the east side if im been honest. Long has the ability to rip your lot a new ar*e and our back is as fearsome as there is in SL.

Oh ffs.....Dobson is weak in defence and Long is slightly better..not much but better.

Can i borrow your crystal ball...........we will have to wait and see wont we...personally..think Long will have a point to prove.

Steered his team to a GF? Obviously past it.

In your not so biased opinion.

What point does he have to prove, he has won everything in the game? Saints made the right call, they have a young kid coming straight out of the youth system that can do a better job.

I would have said he was past his best whoever he had signed for! he has been showing signs of slowing down and not reproducing the form of recent seasons. It happens to all players when they are coming to end of their career!