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| Quote: Scrappy Doo "]
Spot on that man
The big concern with that is, if nothing changes we'll have another season to write off.
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| Quote: Rock God X "The big concern with that is, if nothing changes we'll have another season to write off.'"
Maybe not, if Agar has a clear out this year and carries on with his recruitment which is looking healthy we should do well.
Then all we have to worry about are his interchanges
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "Odd team selection
Moa? Hall? To name but two.
You really reckon he's picked the best 17 each week out of that available squad?
Radford at 13 FFS!
Quote: berrigans bitch "poor tactics & general lack of imagination
All of them? In every game? And I'm not just talking about the game plan, I'm talking about our lack of trying something a bit different with the squad.
Quote: berrigans bitch "Agree his interchange policy is dubious, and possibly better options for LF'"
His interchange policy is sub-amateur, and there are few [iworse[/i options at LF.
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "Maybe not, if Agar has a clear out this year and carries on with his recruitment which is looking healthy we should do well.
Then all we have to worry about are his interchanges
And selections, tactics, defensive pattern, attacking pattern...
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| Quote: Kosh "Moa? Hall? To name but two.
You really reckon he's picked the best 17 each week out of that available squad?
Radford at 13 FFS!
All of them? In every game? And I'm not just talking about the game plan, I'm talking about our lack of trying something a bit different with the squad.
His interchange policy is sub-amateur, and there are few [iworse[/i options at LF.'"
Wow you need to chill fella! I gave you my opinion if you want to discuss fine however it appears you wish to argue
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| Quote: Rock God X "And selections, tactics, defensive pattern, attacking pattern...'"
Well you may have a point
However what we have to bear in mind is it is the players who have to follow the gameplan, defensive, and attacking and they are not producing we have a limited squad to choose from right now so the players have Agar by the b@lls.
The selection on occasions has mystified me however again we are unsure the extent of the problems behind the scenes which may well be contributing to this.
My biggest gripe with Agar is that he is carrying on playing these players he should now use the kids.
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "Well you may have a point
Nope, just frustrated and finally at the end of my tether.
I'll go out of my way to defend players, coach, and club if I feel they're being unfairly criticised, and have done many times. I stood by both Kear and Sharp when they were in a similar position. It takes a lot to push me into open criticism, but this current shower have managed it.
Saturday was the last straw TBH.
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| Quote: Kosh "Nope, just frustrated and finally at the end of my tether.
I'll go out of my way to defend players, coach, and club if I feel they're being unfairly criticised, and have done many times. I stood by both Kear and Sharp when they were in a similar position. It takes a lot to push me into open criticism, but this current shower have managed it.
Saturday was the last straw TBH.'"
Fair point, I think we are all fed up to be honest, like you point out it is the third time round in as many years this has happened. I am not suggesting Agar is the answer maybe if we had got Crocker and Luaikai and young Tom Briscoe was not injured things may be different. I may appear I am defending Agar it is just that I am so annoyed with the players I would hate to see Agar sacked because they are shiite (player power) and we just carry on with this continous spiral. Maybe the solution is we give Agar the chance to get rid of the deadwood and let him try to prove himsef next season based on the signings etc.
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "poor tactics & general lack of imagination
Sorry but if the side aren't following his tactics then why isn't he at the side of the pitch shouting at them to f@@king sort it every single week?
If I do employee training one week & see them doing something different during their work I'll tell them whilst they are doing it not bemoan the fact afterwards when it is too late & all gone tits up!
Sorry but despite the fact some players aren't seeming to put in the effort which to me is mainly down to demotivation, pressure & mental attitude; it boils down to the coach who is not strong enough to a) face up to he board (and/or players but I dont know that) AND for sure he certainly isn't a man manager/leader able to implement his training plan into a working environment.
The players HAVE the ability to be top 4 easy, it needs a coach who can tell the board that if they want success AND get (more) money into their pockets they do it his way.
Some people can manage employees on a day to day basis & instruct effectually whilst been able to implement change throughout a company for the better. These kind of people are few & far between. Sadly Agar isn't one of them.(and Sharp for that matter)
So it's partly the boards fault for employing the easy/cheap option, however no matter what the board say Agar is the PLAYING COACH/Manager, what he says should be the be all & end all of what goes on on the pitch. IF he cant make those decisions himself without influence from others & bring success with what we have then he isn't good enough in ALL facets that a Middle manager should be.
Even if he has the footballing skills & knowledge/tactics if he cannot implement them effectively he is buggered.
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| Quote: berrigans bitch " Maybe the solution is we give Agar the chance to get rid of the deadwood and let him try to prove himsef next season based on the signings etc.'"
But, like I said, the concern is that things don't improve next season and he ends up going then anyway.
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| Simple solution:
IF Agar is being hamstrung by the actions of the board etc. then he leaves and sues for constructive dimissal.
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| Quote: Rock God X "But, like I said, the concern is that things don't improve next season and he ends up going then anyway.'"
Well none of us can answer that, we could get a different coach and things could be just as bad.
The facts are we never got Crocker (or Luaikia), we have been hit by injuries, the loss of Tom Brisoce was a blow imo and for Agar.
There has clearly been a rift, on Saturday I stood near the dug out and the body language and lack of communication was unreal.
Top players (internationals are just not performing), this happened with Kear & Sharpe and the players succeeded in getting rid. We may or may not improve next year, however I suggest we will if we back Agar let him get rid of the players who he needs to who have been involved in player power once too often and let him build a team who want to play for him. We then have an opportunity to coax a top coach if we need too instead of knee jerking which has become part of the problem in the past when we sack coaches willy nilly.
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "Well none of us can answer that, we could get a different coach and things could be just as bad.
The facts are we never got Crocker (or Luaikia), we have been hit by injuries, the loss of Tom Brisoce was a blow imo and for Agar.
There has clearly been a rift, on Saturday I stood near the dug out and the body language and lack of communication was unreal.
Top players (internationals are just not performing), this happened with Kear & Sharpe and the players succeeded in getting rid. We may or may not improve next year, however I suggest we will if we back Agar let him get rid of the players who he needs to who have been involved in player power once too often and let him build a team who want to play for him. We then have an opportunity to coax a top coach if we need too instead of knee jerking which has become part of the problem in the past when we sack coaches willy nilly.'"
I'd love to know what you have seen in Agar to make you think he is anything other than inept, and way out of his depth.?
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| Quote: Standee "I'd love to know what you have seen in Agar to make you think he is anything other than inept, and way out of his depth.?'"
She fancies him
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