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| The guy has all of the attributes to play almost any position in the backs,he has natural flair, an eye for the gap and an uncanny ability to beat players with ease.
He had a great game last night...Long may he continue.
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| I hope craig gets a good run in the fullback roll ideally it would be great if he could play centre alongside calderwood in attack they would be lethal unfortunately his defence lets him in down in that area wheres as fullback he wont get caught out so much but then again if a certain mr crocker arrived he could be the making of craig hall as a centre as he would be defending out wide he would keep hall reet just has he did folau at melbourne. so basically imo michael crocker final piece of the jigsaw. ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="yeeha sevy"I hope craig gets a good run in the fullback roll ideally it would be great if he could play centre alongside calderwood in attack they would be lethal unfortunately his defence lets him in down in that area wheres as fullback he wont get caught out so much but then again if a certain mr crocker arrived he could be the making of craig hall as a centre as he would be defending out wide he would keep hall reet just has he did folau at melbourne. so basically imo michael crocker final piece of the jigsaw.
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| Think the poster means if Crocker arrived and played next to Hall he would take some of the pressure off Hall defending.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Think the poster means if Crocker arrived and played next to Hall he would take some of the pressure off Hall defending.'"
I'm really pleased Hall's getting a chance at fullback. He looks dangerous with ball in hand and if he becomes a useful support player, no-one will catch him. I wish he'd attack the ball more from kicks but that'll come with game time. I think we should stop hoping for Crocker now. It's really unlikely he's coming, and we've already got half the Tongan pack trying to earn a place in the side!
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| Showed the skills and attributes many of us know he has.
Great elusive runner which could make him a very potent attacking weapon if his moves into the line could be timed to perfection.
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| Always thought Hall is a decent player and a big prospect for the future. He had a solid game at FB last night and took the chance gave to him by Agar with both hands. I still believe his best position though is in the centre's and would love Agar to give him some more opportunities to impress.
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| I think full back is his natural position with plenty of space to run into it. Would be great to see him develop into England full back - think we concentrate too much on defence with the likes of Wellens unlike the fast Aussie full backs we saw in the world cup. Daft as it sounds I dont think defence (which isnt his strongest point) matters as much at full back as in the centres.
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| great asset to the team, versitile back and can score from anywhere. just needs to improve his defense to step up to thet next level
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| Quote ="Pookie"Daft as it sounds I dont think defence (which isnt his strongest point) matters as much at full back as in the centres.'"
It's not daft, it's rediculous!!
Full Back is the last line of defence on many occasions.
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| Quote ="Standee"It's not daft, it's rediculous!!
Full Back is the last line of defence on many occasions.'"
It's not ridiculous at all. A centre is likely to make far more tackles in a game than a full back (unless it's salford's full back ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif) )
Look at this comparison from last season (didn't use ours as we didn't have a settled side)
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2008&hp1=920&hs2=2008&hp2=351&stat=tries&season=2009HERE[/url
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"It's not ridiculous at all. A centre is likely to make far more tackles in a game than a full back (unless it's salford's full back
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Look at this comparison from last season (didn't use ours as we didn't have a settled side)
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2008&hp1=920&hs2=2008&hp2=351&stat=tries&season=2009HERE[/url'"
I'm not talking number of tackles, but how important they are. Stats are irrelevant.
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| Quote ="Standee"I'm not talking number of tackles, but how important they are. Stats are irrelevant.'"
So the man who has to make around 3 X the number of tackles doesn't need as good defence? Sounds like an interesting, if bollox, theory to me.
A FB may need to make a small number of crucial tackles in a game, however a centre will be called on to make several tackles which, if missed, are likely to result in tries (or opportunities for tries). Centre is a very difficult position to defend as it tends to be very exposed
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"So the man who has to make around 3 X the number of tackles doesn't need as good defence? Sounds like an interesting, if bollox, theory to me.
A FB may need to make a small number of crucial tackles in a game, however a centre will be called on to make several tackles which, if missed, are likely to result in tries (or opportunities for tries). Centre is a very difficult position to defend as it tends to be very exposed'"
Where did I say a centre doesn't need good defense?
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| Quote ="Standee"Where did I say a centre doesn't need good defense?'"
Ah, the famous standee strategic withdrawal ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="Standee"I'm not talking number of tackles, but how important they are. Stats are irrelevant.'"
It's a completely different type of tackle generally though. Fullback is about getting the tackle completed and little else. That isn't enough at centre.
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| Quote ="Standee"It's not daft, it's rediculous!!
Full Back is the last line of defence on many occasions.'"
I also think it suits his tackling style - i.e. catching a man or a side tackle. Yes a full back does have to make one on one front on tackles (a Wellens good point) but I stand by a centre needs better man on man defence.
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| Quote ="trys'r'us"It's a completely different type of tackle generally though. Fullback is about getting the tackle completed and little else. That isn't enough at centre.'"
I don't disagree.
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| Quote ="Standee"I don't disagree.'"
So you agree?
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| Quote ="KNOCK OFF NIGEL"So you agree?'"
By definition, yes.
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| Interesting to see Hall Packing in at loose man a couple of times on Friday . A good move move by Agar to tighten our defensive line up with a second row and not leaving Hall in a potential 1 on 1 scenario near our try line.
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| Quote ="B0NES"Interesting to see Hall Packing in at loose man a couple of times on Friday . A good move move by Agar to tighten our defensive line up with a second row and not leaving Hall in a potential 1 on 1 scenario near our try line.'"
standard procedure these days with most full backs
means they are not out of position for the 2nd tackle
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| Quote ="Hutchie"standard procedure these days with most full backs
means they are not out of position for the 2nd tackle'"
Radford is hardly ever in the scrum these days. Means the full back can filter back into postion for the set direct from the back of the scrum and not get caught up in a tackle
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| Glad Hall played well, I had every confidence in him, think he may have a very good season in that position.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"standard procedure these days with most full backs
means they are not out of position for the 2nd tackle'"
I personally thought they did it to get an extra person in the defensive line, as soon as the ball is fed the full back runs back into position and you have your looseman in the line ready for the tackle.
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