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| Quote: thehullwhitestar "Absolutely spot on !!
Time you changed your sig mate, unless there's another complete idiot you want shut of
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| Quote: cod'ead "Time you changed your sig mate, unless there's another complete idiot you want shut of'"
How's that for you Cod?
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| You still aint changed your sig!
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| Quote: Garry Brindley Esq. "rlrl
I'm abroad at the moment so only just seen this, absolutely fantastic news!!!
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "Although I am happy to see Agar leaving his position as coach, I am also like to see a bit of humility and justice once in a while.
McRae's "Cancer" comment came back in 2002, shortly after we had been hammered away at St Helens. Agar came to Hull in 2005 and was never there during McRae last stint. To now claim Agar is "he last remaining tumour of the Hetherington 'cancer' that Bomber described " is incorrect and fairly stupid.
No arguement about tactic, but surely its the players who make the errors, not the coach. As for worse Hull coaches, well in the 30 years I have followed them Tony Gordon, Peter Walsh and Len Casey were by far an away worse coaches.
The "cancer" McRae spoke of was the likes of certain players who preferred to p!$$ away their wages and playing careers. Agar had his faults (many of them) but the club is not considered a joke by people in the game anymore as there is professionalism and discipline throughout.
Now, cast your mind back 10 years when the "cancer" started and remind yourself who was at the helm then.
I fail to see what the year of Agar's arrival has to do with anything, and if you think the 'cancer' that McCrae spoke of was simply to do with indiscipline and players drinking too much then I'm afraid it's you who is 'incorrect' and 'fairly stupid'.
The cancer was Kath and her desire to be involved in team affairs far more than any proper coach would tolerate, while always ensuring she avoided the expenses associated with running a really successful club. Far better for her if Hull FC 'ticked along' in the background for the most part while Gary's Leeds became the unrivalled Yorkshire powerhouse, even, if you believe some of the stories, taking signings from under the noses of FC because of loose lips at the breakfast table. If the 'cancer' had anything to do with indiscipline, it was that Kath wouldn't give McCrae the power to deal with it properly (doubtless because that would mean losing some of her favourites, and, of course, having to pay off their contracts).
Agar was a 'tumour' of that cancer because he was the embodiment of everything Kath wanted in a coach: simple, subservient, cheap, grateful to be there and lacking the ability to ever achieve too much. Agar was her boy from day one and he was always going to get the top job, regardless of performance, as soon as she felt she could get away with putting him in place.
If you think that Casey, Gordon and Walsh were all far worse and that Agar has instilled professionalism and discipline throughout, then it's simply evidence that the club's spin and media management over the last few years has done a great job on a lot of people. It also means that you're going to be in for a very pleasant surprise next season when you are reminded what a proper coach can do.
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| Quote: Garry Brindley Esq. "I fail to see what the year of Agar's arrival has to do with anything, and if you think the 'cancer' that McCrae spoke of was simply to do with indiscipline and players drinking too much then I'm afraid it's you who is 'incorrect' and 'fairly stupid'. wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/news/wil ... r/2011/09/
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| Poor Wakey. Just when they thought it couldn't get any worse...
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