The HDM is doing you lot no favours either, you've got a club propagandist in Tomlinson who regardless of performance won't broach the hard questions. Even after that the main headline is 'stick with us' and 'injuries'. Never seen such poor RL journalism in this city, its a crying shame for both clubs

The last but one try in the game is
a try that I’ve only ever seen in
Under 12 rugby where some kids
have universally given up and are
on the pitch thinking about
Pokémon and Nintendo

Can’t be bothered to go back and find the post, but when he was appointed I said Smith wasn’t the answer. If you haven’t, watch his pre match presser, he can’t give a straight answer to a question and just waffles a load of nonsense. This is obviously what he’s like in training, waffles a load of nonsense and can’t give straight, direct instructions, no wonder the players don’t know if they’re on their head, backside or elbow.

Pearson said Smith would be his last coaching appointment so for those calling for his sacking I’m not sure. Plus coaches don’t get ‘sacked’ they are paid off and Pearson can’t afford to pay Smith off. Those calling for Pearson to go, who do you honestly think would buy or invest in a club without a ground who are on a downward spiral ? Nobody, that’s who. Everyone needs to be worried, if Pearson has had enough what will happen ? Worst case scenario is the club could fold.

What coaching credentials does Stanley Gene have ? That’s what Pearson should have asked Smith before he allowed him to bring his best friend and yes man with him ! I think he thought like the majority of us he was getting one over on Rovers and went along with it.

One last thing, no matter how bad the team is, I will never, ever boo my team. It’s not their fault they’re not good enough or coached well enough, whatever you might think they’ve just put their bodies on the line and will wake up bruised, battered and aching tomorrow.

That is a really good point. It's almost like they daren't say how it is or convey the general level of disappointment of the fans for fear of being locked out by the club. It's way too cordial.

That is a really good point. It's almost like they daren't say how it is or convey the general level of disappointment of the fans for fear of being locked out by the club. It's way too cordial.

I'm not a fan of Hull Live but to give them credit this is telling it how it is

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I also think that approaching Acun for investment is our best approach.

Relations are so much better since the Allams left and Acun has invested in other sports before in Turkey. Having everything under the umbrella also supports the future MKM/Walton Street redevelopment.

With proper investment we can start to rebuild. Get a hungry Coach in, and re-build the squad with some quality players.

Some times sadly to keep access to the parts of the club we want to hear things from they have to bite their lips and toe the line, Smailsey often had to do that. However, the thing is Dan Tomlinson probably knows that his days are limited as is our coverage in the Mail and he just tells it as he would have done in his old Fanzine, or when I trudged out of away games with him, because it was a shambles and it is just one in a series of shambles over many years that we have had to endure.

Any guy who has hosted his own podcast on the FC, sat on FC voices, who produces a monthly fanzine and stands in the park in the pouring rain selling them before a game, (before getting a job writing about the club he loves in the local paper) is one of us. Like him, watching that game back this morning I just can't believe how rubbish we are and where we have sunk to.

Weve allowed mediocrity to set in.
The fans are as bad at times when everyones championing fash getting new deals or naming houghton in their starting lineups week in week out when weve a fantastic young prospect in the cold.

As long as you put x amount of tackles in, are local or try abit , that seems to be the standard set.

What about attacking flair and creativity, its massively lacking right across the team as well as leadership, courage and discipline.

Until this club stops recruiting and retaining 1 dimensional/limited players were going nowhere especially with no expertise in the recruitment department or coach selection.

Invested heavily in youth, yet appoints a coach who would rather play a hooker whos admitted hes fell out of love with the game and cannot pass to a kicker on the 5th.

What was the Lewis Martin non selection about? Absolutley baffling, made some amazing plays in defence and been a shining light, but sacrificed so Tindall can play, what about earning the shirt? Could the woefully out of form Carlos not of come out and Mcintosh stay at centre.

Its just all very head scratching , chairman and coach not in tandem at all, and thats even before we address how weve got into our current halfback situation.

Think the best plan is Grix until the end if the season, then when we have a better financial situation Pearson needs to pay what it takes for a quality modern coach.

Bigest problem is we have no number 6 or 7. Yet smith signed them to play there. I Don't think Trueman will see the end of the season before being out with another long term injury.

Smith has to take responsbility because that yesterday wasnt acceptable. I wouldnt cry if he got the sack tomorrow.

Pearson is a problem though, flung the clubs coffers with unproven coaches then when he gets a proven coach he gives him a shoe string budget. Everything from top to bottom is like its laughing at the supporters, £30 to watch them and then they play old faithful after a 50 point drubbing. These are all traits that just anger the fan base.

It is very odd though that Smith all of a sudden cant teach the basics, I find that very hard to believe. They is something very wrong at this club that 4 head coaches have failed to even come close to sorting this mess out. Yet some of the higher management and senior players remain.

Hi Rugby Raider, I have only the very best intentions for our club, and the greatest of admiration for our owner AP who saved our club, of this I have no doubt.

But I’ll share a story which I’ve told to a few forum friends privately.

Perhaps naively I had an idea, as the news broke of the new owner at the stadium for the Tigers, and before Acun took over, I offered our services free of charge, to meet with Turkish entrepreneur and welcome him to the stadium and liaise with a possibility of bringing both the clubs together, as we are also tenants, and the possibility of peace breaking out after the Allams tenure.

One of my immediate family, is from Hull, and a pass holder at one time with City & Hull, he’s a university graduate with a degree in criminal psychology, fluent in Turkish, and has an understanding of the Turkish culture, and the Hull culture, a perfect introduction to any possible liaison with AP and Acun, remember this was before the new owner actually took his new position.

So here’s probably the naivety, I emailed our CEO which I’ve done in the past, and offered our services for free, with good intentions.

James reply, went along these lines, if a takeover happens I’ll believe it when I see it, and he would bear it in mind for the future.

Once more I’ll reiterate, we only want the best for our club, but sometimes I feel a disconnect which has happened before in the Shark period, and now as then, actually attending fixtures is no longer fun but a chore.

Hi Rugby Raider, I have only the very best intentions for our club, and the greatest of admiration for our owner AP who saved our club, of this I have no doubt.

But I’ll share a story which I’ve told to a few forum friends privately.

Perhaps naively I had an idea, as the news broke of the new owner at the stadium for the Tigers, and before Acun took over, I offered our services free of charge, to meet with Turkish entrepreneur and welcome him to the stadium and liaise with a possibility of bringing both the clubs together, as we are also tenants, and the possibility of peace breaking out after the Allams tenure.

One of my immediate family, is from Hull, and a pass holder at one time with City & Hull, he’s a university graduate with a degree in criminal psychology, fluent in Turkish, and has an understanding of the Turkish culture, and the Hull culture, a perfect introduction to any possible liaison with AP and Acun, remember this was before the new owner actually took his new position.

So here’s probably the naivety, I emailed our CEO which I’ve done in the past, and offered our services for free, with good intentions.

James reply, went along these lines, if a takeover happens I’ll believe it when I see it, and he would bear it in mind for the future.

Once more I’ll reiterate, we only want the best for our club, but sometimes I feel a disconnect which has happened before in the Shark period, and now as then, actually attending fixtures is no longer fun but a chore.

Inept CEO

Alot believe as i do, Acuns just the frontman, when you look at citys main sponser you l probably get an idea of the money behind hull city

Murat ulker

Youd be thinking the ceo would be actively reaching out over a glass of wine and having a chat with citys owners to see how the land lies.

Something seems off at the top of Hull FC
Are we a cash cow for Pearson? Does it say on the accounts how much hes paid himself?

It's an eternal problem for journalists , particularly those attached to their local club. They have to tread a fine line between asking awkward questions when things aren't going too well, whilst making sure they don't suddenly find their access all areas badge being rescinded because they've upset someone once too often.

Alex Ferguson was a master of this tactic, having various journalists thrown out if they displeased him. A sports journalist is of no use to his newspaper/tv station if he's sat in the car park while the manager is taking questions inside. I know Hull Fc operate on a wholly different media level to Man Utd, but the principle's the same. They're always caught slightly between two rocks.