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| Quote ="Chris28"But is a utility player and as Stan says, is unlikely to hold a position there next year'"
I don't think he is a utility player, he's always tries his best in any postilion he plays but he's by far a better back rower.
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| If this is true,then this is not the type of signing we need to take this club forward the bloke is cack a penalty machine & is no better than players who have been released.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Thought I might be more philosophical about this in the morning. Turns out I still think its the worst signing on our history. Yes we are obviously signing better players and they can't all be top quality but that doesn't mean we should sign complete garbage, [uI'd rather give a young kid the game time[/u.'"
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Warnk signing.
I hope Bomber fooks off at the end of the season, after we've scraped into tne eight and been knocked out in the first play-off game.'"
Why is Bomber to blame for this signing? This is clearly a Gentle/Hay recruit as the both now him well.
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| Quote ="Chris28"But is a utility player and as Stan says, is unlikely to hold a position there next year'"
Usually leave it 'til the close season to speculate on Whiting's game time for next season don't we ? Whiting is a much better all round player than Westerman in my opinion and I'd pick him ahead of Westerman at loose forward every day of the week.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Why is Bomber to blame for this signing? This is clearly a Gentle/Hay recruit as the both now him well.'"
Not blaming him for the signing, he didn't need appointing in the first place.
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| Quote ="K-Diddy"How can people question Gentle's judgement? Not 1 of his signings have let us down so far. Even though McGoldrick isn't a brilliant player & a bit of a tit I'm pretty sure Gentle knows more about the game & the payers then any of us on here so if he's happy to sign him thats fine as far as I'm concerned. I certainly won't be losing any sleep of the signing or getting angry or anything like that.'"
I agree totally. negatives: a bit of a penalty giver, bad attitude, positives: aggresive, hard to handle on his day, bad loser.
A bit of the old Gentle coaching should shape him up, wait and see is what I say.
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Quote ="K-Diddy"[uHow can people question Gentle's judgement? Not 1 of his signings have let us down so far[/u. Even though McGoldrick isn't a brilliant player & a bit of a tit I'm pretty sure Gentle knows more about the game & the payers then any of us on here so if he's happy to sign him thats fine as far as I'm concerned. I certainly won't be losing any sleep of the signing or getting angry or anything like that.'"
Aspinwall? www.code13rugbyleague.com/2011/1 ... -training/
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Aspinwall? www.code13rugbyleague.com/2011/1 ... -training/
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| I just don't see the logic in this signing especially for 2013 aswell.
I know we can't have every signing being a top quality one but McGoldrick!!! Thats really scrapping the bottom of the barrel unless he has come on a very small deal cash wise I just can't see any advantage to us apart from experience.
Having said that Andy Hay must know something of the guy from working closely with him at Cas so time will tell if he turns out to be one of the worst in history or performs ok in the Black & White irregular hoops
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| Are we not allowed to question his judgement He may turn him into a valuable asset for the club, and I hope he does, but that does not mean Peter Gentle is beyond reproach.
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Yeah, what about him? That was in pre-season, 6 months ago, when he had just signed & turned out to be not as bad as people where making out. He hasn't done anything since so appears to have learnt his lesson. Plus I meant on the playing side of things in which case Aspinwall certainly hasn't let anybody down & has been a more then worthwhile signing.
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Yeah, what about him? That was in pre-season, 6 months ago, when he had just signed & turned out to be not as bad as people where making out. He hasn't done anything since so appears to have learnt his lesson. Plus I meant on the playing side of things in which case Aspinwall certainly hasn't let anybody down & has been a more then worthwhile signing.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Thought I might be more philosophical about this in the morning. Turns out I still think its the worst signing on our history. Yes we are obviously signing better players and they can't all be top quality but that doesn't mean we should sign complete garbage, I'd rather give a young kid the game time.'"
I'd rather have given the boot boy game time TBH.
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| Quote ="Zuider"Are we not allowed to question his judgement He may turn him into a valuable asset for the club, and I hope he does, but that does not mean Peter Gentle is beyond reproach.'" New club clean slate. Give the guy a chance
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Why is Bomber to blame for this signing? This is clearly a Gentle/Hay recruit as the both now him well.'"
Wasnt Bombers total remit, the recruitment of plaers??
If that is the best he can do then he can f**k off!!
We needed a Rangi Chase, we get this has being!! Rubbish signing no matter how people try to gloss it over!!
Top 4 my A**e!!
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| Not happy at all, but I guess he's here now so we better all just pray that he is the worst of the 6 signings.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Not blaming him for the signing, he didn't need appointing in the first place.'"
Disagree slightly with that. I think he [idid[/i need appointing in the first place when Pearson was still working at City and had limited RL experience. Now that Pearson is full time at FC I wouldn't be surprised to see Bomber leave at the end of the season as his position now seems redundant to me.
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| Can someone confirm what his quota status is?
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"Wasnt Bombers total remit, the recruitment of plaers??
If that is the best he can do then he can f**k off!!
We needed a Rangi Chase, we get this has being!! Rubbish signing no matter how people try to gloss it over!!
Top 4 my A**e!!'"
You reckon Bomber signs players without agreeing things with Gentle and AP? Because I don't.
Corporate responsibility for this signing IMO. I can only assume our injury situation is a lot worse than has been made public and this is a case of 'needs must'. Still very unhappy with it, mind. Difficult to believe we couldn't come up with a better option than Captain Tatoo.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Can someone confirm what his quota status is?'"
He's off the non fed list but don't know about Quota.
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| Left it until this morning to post on this signing as I must admit I'm stunned by it. That said I'll reserve judgement and wait and see where and how he plays when he pulls on the B+W. I know we have a good coach so there must be a good reason. I certainly don't agree that we would have been better keeping Ellis as this clearly isn't a like for like swap in position terms - it seems we are desperate for more bodies in other positions right now and this is the result. ATEOTD I'll comment again after he's played 5 games for us - he does have good and bad attributes but it's not beyond the realms of possibility that he might improve us in certain areas.
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| Ellis has been rubbish for us and clearly Gentle's ed off with his fitness and/or attitude.
I'd guess we've missed out for McDonnell, if we were ever in for him?
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| Quote ="Kosh"You reckon Bomber signs players without agreeing things with Gentle and AP? Because I don't.
Corporate responsibility for this signing IMO. I can only assume our injury situation is a lot worse than has been made public and this is a case of 'needs must'. Still very unhappy with it, mind. Difficult to believe we couldn't come up with a better option than Captain Tatoo.'"
Course i dont reckon that, but like i said that was Bombers re-mit, i am sure he knows McGoldrick far better than Gentle with him spending so long in the UK coaching and such like so will have advised him, so i was questioning his judgement.
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| Quote ="K-Diddy"Yeah, what about him? That was in pre-season, 6 months ago, when he had just signed & turned out to be not as bad as people where making out. He hasn't done anything since so appears to have learnt his lesson. Plus I meant on the playing side of things in which case Aspinwall certainly hasn't let anybody down & has been a more then worthwhile signing.'"
Your point was none of Gentle's signings have let him down. I pointed out that actually they have, whether that’s on the field or not. IMO Aspinwall has been ok on in defence but that's about it. Doesn't give much go forward. An average player for what appears to be another average year for the team. Same old story.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"Course i dont reckon that, but like i said that was Bombers re-mit, i am sure he knows McGoldrick far better than Gentle with him spending so long in the UK coaching and such like so will have advised him, so i was questioning his judgement.'"
I'm questioning everyone's judgement. And I think both Gentle and Hay are pretty familiar with McGoldrick.
Bombers remit was to sign players, not decide on who to sign.
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| No one is over-reacting to this. Absolutely appalling signing. Until the end of the season could almost be understood, but 18 months is more than ridiculous. Looking at the Super League table, who else would possibly want to sign him? This shows where we are as a club right now!
1 Wigan - No chance
2 Warrington - No chance
3 Catalan Dragons - No chance
4 St Helens - No chance
5 Huddersfield - No chance
6 Leeds - No chance
7 Hull - Baffled!
8 Bradford - No chance
9 Hull KR - No chance
10 Salford - Doubtful
11 Wakefield - No chance
12 Castleford
13 Widnes - Maybe
14 London Broncos - Quite possibly
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