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| Quote ="gary-hfc"never gave us less than 100% a great winger under used by us, in a sts or leeds team over the last 8 years would have scored many more tries, has made a mistake and looks like he is going to be punished for it, after that good look for the future i will always remember you as one of the best wingers i have seen at Hull'" I'll echo that sentiment.
Good luck for the future Gareth, I have a feeling you're going to need it.
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| Being accused of counterfeiting Ink Cartridges and pirate games etc is not exactly a mistake is it?
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| Quote ="El Chupacabra"Being accused of counterfeiting Ink Cartridges and pirate games etc is not exactly a mistake is it?'"
The key word that youve said there is accused and not convicted.
The conviction for assault last year was more serious imo and we should have got rid then.
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| another bad egg gone down the road, no sympathy for greedy people!!
his huge salary just wasnt enough, no sympathy at all, as said before he should have gone after the last court case!
great player attitude stinks
bye bye
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"another bad egg gone down the road, no sympathy for greedy people!!
his huge salary just wasnt enough, no sympathy at all, as said before he should have gone after the last court case!
great player attitude stinks
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I certainly do not condone what Raynor is alleged to have done, but if you really think he was on mega bucks playing RL, then you need to get a reality check. ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"I certainly do not condone what Raynor is alleged to have done, but if you really think he was on mega bucks playing RL, then you need to get a reality check.
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I've got friends that earn 10-15k per year doing pretty boring jobs, they dont feel the need to suppliment their income illegally. Raynor was on a heck of a lot more than that. ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER" as it sends the very clearest of messages to the existing squad and builds a code of conduct and work ethic into the youngsters coming through!!
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Im not sure it does, Do you believe that if Raynor was 2 or 3 years younger and we didnt have the likes of Briscoe and Hall at the club the decision would have been made right now? Raynor has had off the field problems throughout his career and I have no doubt on some of these ocassions the club would have been within there rights to terminate his contract or even if not, he has had plenty of contract extensions. I think its just a case with everything considered, his age, recent injuries, the younger players who can play his position and of course his court case probaablly the biggest factor I just feel the club think he is simply not worth having on a contract anymore and its in the clubs best interests, I dont think its a moral decision and had he had more to offer Im not sure the decision would have been made.
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| Quote ="jordanp"Im not sure it does, Do you believe that if Raynor was 2 or 3 years younger and we didnt have the likes of Briscoe and Hall at the club the decision would have been made right now? Raynor has had off the field problems throughout his career and I have no doubt on some of these ocassions the club would have been within there rights to terminate his contract or even if not, he has had plenty of contract extensions. I think its just a case with everything considered, his age, recent injuries, the younger players who can play his position and of course his court case probaablly the biggest factor I just feel the club think he is simply not worth having on a contract anymore and its in the clubs best interests, I dont think its a moral decision and had he had more to offer Im not sure the decision would have been made.'"
Youre exactly right. It's the correct strategic business decision to make at exactly the right time.
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| Quote ="barton baird"I would like to say thank you to Raynor for the past seasons he has given to the club.
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ill echo that, cheers gaz, good luck for the future, your going to need it pal!!
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| I do not know the full reasons why this has happened but I want to thank him for the enjoyment of watching him play and wish him well as he has been a great player for us. Well IMHO anyway. Also seemed anice guy on the few occasions I chatted with him. We can all make silly mistakes
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| Quote ="Brasil Fan"I do not know the full reasons why this has happened but I want to thank him for the enjoyment of watching him play and wish him well as he has been a great player for us. Well IMHO anyway. Also seemed anice guy on the few occasions I chatted with him. We can all make silly mistakes'"
With respect, racially aggravated assault and an alledged 14 counts of counterfeiting and fraud can hardly be constituted as silly mistakes.
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| Quote ="Brasil Fan"I do not know the full reasons why this has happened but I want to thank him for the enjoyment of watching him play and wish him well as he has been a great player for us. Well IMHO anyway. Also seemed anice guy on the few occasions I chatted with him. We can all make silly mistakes'"
He avoided a sentance the lasttime he was in court by the skin of his teeth and he goes and does something else....he deserves all he gets.
FWIW...I thought he was a Jason Robinson wannabe and didnt have half the talent.....injury prone and a liability in the air as well as his bloody off-loads in our 2omt area.
Another bad apple out of the club....a good player yes...but not a great player for our club.
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| Quote ="Brasil Fan"We can all make silly mistakes'"
confession time is it mate ![Shocked icon_eek.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_eek.gif)
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| Quote ="Hutchie"confession time is it mate
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Most people just don't get found out for them!
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| Quote ="fc baldy"He avoided a sentance the lasttime he was in court by the skin of his teeth and he goes and does something else....he deserves all he gets.
FWIW...I thought he was a Jason Robinson wannabe and didnt have half the talent.....injury prone and a liability in the air as well as his bloody off-loads in our 2omt area.Another bad apple out of the club....a good player yes...but not a great player for our club.'"
are you serious he didnt have to many problems under the high ball, and when is being able to offload in the tackle a weakness iff you watch sts/leeds etc its a major plus unfortunately over the last 3 or 4 seasons we have had nobody to take advantage of his skill in that area, think back to Crooks,Knocker, and players like that, its what made them special we can all run and put the ball up our jumper, plus i thought he always gave 100%
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| Quote ="gary-hfc"are you serious he didnt have to many problems under the high ball, and when is being able to offload in the tackle a weakness iff you watch sts/leeds etc its a major plus unfortunately over the last 3 or 4 seasons we have had nobody to take advantage of his skill in that area, think back to Crooks,Knocker, and players like that, its what made them special we can all run and put the ball up our jumper, plus i thought he always gave 100%'"
I concur!
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| Quote ="gary-hfc"are you serious he didnt have to many problems under the high ball, and when is being able to offload in the tackle a weakness iff you watch sts/leeds etc its a major plus unfortunately over the last 3 or 4 seasons we have had nobody to take advantage of his skill in that area, think back to Crooks,Knocker, and players like that, its what made them special we can all run and put the ball up our jumper, plus i thought he always gave 100%'"
Agree with all that - I can't remember a game when he didn't put in the effort. The only disappointment in terms of his game was the number of injuries he picked up, other than that Raynor has been a very good player for FC. He neither got the service a winger of his class deserved (Cooke aside) nor, as you say, did anyone look to back up his good offloading game. Shame it seems he's been a liability off the pitch.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Agree with all that - I can't remember a game when he didn't put in the effort. The only disappointment in terms of his game was the number of injuries he picked up, other than that Raynor has been a very good player for FC. He neither got the service a winger of his class deserved (Cooke aside) nor, as you say, did anyone look to back up his good offloading game. Shame it seems he's been a liability off the pitch.'"
Agreed. Up until the injury to his toe Raynor was, IMO, the best British winger around.
Makes it all the more stupid for him to have put all that in jeopardy.
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| Quote ="gary-hfc"are you serious he didnt have to many problems under the high ball, and when is being able to offload in the tackle a weakness iff you watch sts/leeds etc its a major plus unfortunately over the last 3 or 4 seasons we have had nobody to take advantage of his skill in that area, think back to Crooks,Knocker, and players like that, its what made them special we can all run and put the ball up our jumper, plus i thought he always gave 100%'"
Errr yes i am serious........he had a lot of problems under high ball... a weakness we have had for a while.....i can think of numerous occasions he has been out-jumped....there is a rea when to off-load and its not our 20mtr area whilst trying to clear lines......what has knocker and crooks got to do with raynor...i know what your trying to say but i was never fussed on Raynor and thought he was over-rated but we all have our opinions on players.......i dont think he will be missed in all honesty.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Errr yes i am serious........he had a lot of problems under high ball... a weakness we have had for a while.....i can think of numerous occasions he has been out-jumped....there is a rea when to off-load and its not our 20mtr area whilst trying to clear lines......what has knocker and crooks got to do with raynor...i know what your trying to say but i was never fussed on Raynor and thought he was over-rated but we all have our opinions on players.......i dont think he will be missed in all honesty.'"
He did most things pretty well including taking a high ball. He was reliable and a grafter. He scored some good tries but for me never quite lived up to his hype though that's not his fault. Perhaps his biggest on field fault was not running straight. Maybe if he'd gone straight in more ways than one he'd have been a better player and still here!
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Agree with all that - I can't remember a game when he didn't put in the effort. The only disappointment in terms of his game was the number of injuries he picked up, other than that Raynor has been a very good player for FC. He neither got the service a winger of his class deserved (Cooke aside) nor, as you say, did anyone look to back up his good offloading game. Shame it seems he's been a liability off the pitch.'"
Agreed. Raynor fit would still be the best british winger around. What a fool he's been.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Agree with all that - I can't remember a game when he didn't put in the effort. The only disappointment in terms of his game was the number of injuries he picked up, other than that Raynor has been a very good player for FC. He neither got the service a winger of his class deserved (Cooke aside) nor, as you say, did anyone look to back up his good offloading game. Shame it seems he's been a liability off the pitch.'"
very much agree ![Thumbs up icon_thumb.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_thumb.gif) ....shame to lose a player like gaz as when fit very much an asset to the team..IMO
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"I certainly do not condone what Raynor is alleged to have done, but if you really think he was on mega bucks playing RL, then you need to get a reality check.
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dont talk bollox, he was on a whole lot more than most ordinary folk thats for sure and I have a lot of staff and friends on a lot less than he was a year that dont feel the need to allegedly boost their income with ill gotten gains...
very very poor show from an rL icon, if true he deserves the little room with bubba!!
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| Quote ="Brasil Fan"I do not know the full reasons why this has happened but I want to thank him for the enjoyment of watching him play and wish him well as he has been a great player for us. Well IMHO anyway. Also seemed anice guy on the few occasions I chatted with him. We can all make silly mistakes'"
Silly Mistake ![Shocked icon_eek.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_eek.gif) I call it banged to rights personally!!
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"With respect, racially aggravated assault and an alledged 14 counts of counterfeiting and fraud can hardly be constituted as silly mistakes.'"
![CLAP eusa_clap.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_clap.gif) glad to be rid, was lucky to get another chance after the last case!!
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