I'm not going to start bagging Gentle but watching some of Hull's attacking plays on Friday was light years away from anything we managed to conjure up under Gentle or Agar for that matter. Yes it did break down in patches but we're ony four games in.

If we beat Cas we'll put another 1000 on the Widnes gate.

No, I'm sorry but you can't say that on here. The default position is he's either brilliant or he's rubbish. There's no in between.

Like quite a few fans I was not convinced with Radders appointment but he's had a great start I think and is certainly going the right way in proving the doubters wrong.

Has anyone been to training and seen first hand if the training has shifted in focus and the players are actually drilling set moves and the attacking structure a lot more? So far this season the attack has looked much more slick and perhaps Gentles mistake was assuming the players were able to produce a certain standard without having to drill it into them so focused more on defence? The pack has made a huge difference but these same players who could barely throw a pass last season now seem to pass accurately and at pace. Fair play to Radford.

Is that down to drilling moves, or spending more time on core skills?

It's from not over complicating things that didn't need to be
We beat wire in the league with an game plan that worked. We never used the same game plan till wirein the arcup. And won again. Players couldn't find reason with some of the ideas either. Silly things like ogre wasn't allowed beyond the outside of the right upright. There was no scope to play what you saw. Hence the skillful player Westy is is showing up now!
Plus a better stronger more powerful pack. Gentle actually admitted he'd got it wrong with a small mobile pack
Conditioner had some strange ideas too. Like no carbohydrates when training. Session in morning, light dinner with veg and then field sessions. Players tired and drained so you'd assume not absorbing properly what's being said!
All these areas look like they've been addressed by the way we are playing. Long may it continue

for gods sake,we`ve only played 4 league games,give the guy a chance.if things go boobies up later in the season,critisize then.

Radders is doing ok, but if we had not had 4 points from the two home games so far then I would have been dissapointed

The main difference is that he has got us playing attractive attacking rugby which is easy on the eye, and although we lost to Wire we could easily have won that game and we were not far away against Saints. I'm enjoying watching FC at the moment.

Early report is much improved but could do better. Radders stated that Bradford would be the acid test but for me its Castleford on Sunday, a team that at the start of the season we would have expected to beat but who have got off to a great start, think it will be tight and I hope it doesn't come down to goal kicks to decide the outcome.

totaly agree with all you say gerrum.as you can see by my local,i travel a long way to watch fc,and that game against bradford was well worth the journey.was hoping to get to castleford,but it`s a bit dodgy with the train service.