Great to see so many players in wigan's side tonight who have come through their ranks. It's an area we have gone backwards at an alarming rate at since mcrae left

Well all the players who came through have gone to other clubs, most of this board agreed with their release.

Horne, Lee, Dixon, Hall, Hodgson, Wheeldon, Welham have been released at some level.

The question is why aren't we producing enough good quality SL players with the odd superstar thrown in

the board would rather bring in an old timer who has a reputation for being good when they were at their peak ten years ago...its a shame but why are we signing people like obst and long?

give the young uns a chance we sure as hell cant get any worse at the moment. why not let the two reece's etc av a crack at sl and proving themselves.

if we keep offloading our youngsters at this rate we will be getting worse for years to come i am sorry to say

Agreed, but why are other clubs producing more quality players through their academy's than us?

Wigan and Saints are.

Leeds have been they Youth system seems to be struggling at the moment.

About equal with the rest of the clubs.

Wigan went through a few years when they didn't produce too many, they are now seeing the rewards.

At the moment we have the best youth system we have ever had, hopefully we will see the rewards in the next couple of years.

I'm sure we'll soon coach the talent out of them all!

This comment was funny the first 100 times I read it.

I don't think we are that far behind most SL clubs, there are one or two exceptions like Saints and Wigan but we have brought through talent like Houghton and Briscoe in recent years and both are very highly rated players.

They've signed a 6ft 6in 18stone 16 year old Tongan on a 2 year deal who is an absolute monster.

I tend to agree with that, but the difference seems to be that other sides are willing to put their youngsters in the side when they have injuries, where we prefer to bring players in on loan.

True, we've got a few youngsters in ft training now they should come in when injuries hit.

Saints and Wigan maybe have that luxury? If Agar is under pressure he maybe does not want to rely on kids? Either way the Wigan kids did okay last night I felt.

Can you imagine the reaction if RA played a glut of kids and got mullered , jesus H Christ it would be a free for all...

agree with the Wigan comment Paul, thought Farrell had a smashing match and the young big uns played well too, how proud must Tompkins mum and dad be today , what a show from both of em !!

Thought Joel was the more impressive last night. I just want to smash Sam's face in every time I see him

The likes of Farrell, Tuson, Prescott etc all look very accomplished.