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| Quote: Rock God X "That's why we need to get one in now. They'll have the rest of the season to see who's worth keeping and who isn't. It's more than obvious from looking at the videos who should be given the chop.
Also, the new coach needs to know that they have the 100% backing of the board to weed out the trouble makers (if there are any). You only need to make an example of one or two players, and the rest will soon fall into line.'"
That would work providing there is a top coach out there who is willing to come now.
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| Quote: PAUL M "Yup, spot on Karl.
We keep getting rid of coaches but nothing changes as it's the same players who are lazy and uninterested. At some stage a coach needs to be backed and have a proper clearout.'"
I agree with that. I'm just not sure it should be this coach.
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| The club needs a coach who is a leader, not a manager. Somone who doesn't care about upsetting people, someone who will make the hard decisions and stand by them. Someone who rattles cages but who can galvanise the players into an effective unit. We need a massive shake up behind the scenes otherwise the club will slip into obscurity.
I also believe agar isn't the whole problem, however I do believe he is a major part of it. The last thing we needed when sharp left was to appoint someone who already knew and had worked with the players. We need someone fresh to come in who can assess the situation objectively and make tough decisions. We also need them to get the full backing of the board in whatever they want to do.
My concern is that the board don't want to hand over some of their perceived power to a coach and that will always restrict who we can bring in. It's a very short sighted approach and one which will hinder us until we have a change of ownership at the club.
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| Quote: PAUL M "That would work providing there is a top coach out there who is willing to come now.'"
Everyone has their price. We must have a bit of spare cash kicking about this year. Invest in a top class coach who takes no nonsense, and the rest should start to fall into place.
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| Quote: Rock God X "I agree with that. I'm just not sure it should be this coach.'"
Point taken, as I mentioned in the other thread Agar does himself no favours with some of his decisions and tactics.
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| Quote: Rock God X "Everyone has their price. We must have a bit of spare cash kicking about this year. Invest in a top class coach who takes no nonsense, and the rest should start to fall into place.'"
I don't disagree, we should have doen this when PS went, in fact we should have kept him until the end of the season then had a clearout of the coaching staff a bit like Hudds have done.
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| I know that the board has far too much input in team selection and they listen to team members.
That undermines the coaching staff and is the route cause of the problems, it needs sorting and that is going to be painful. Some of our senior players are a bloody disgrace and they need to be got rid off.
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| Quote: PAUL M "Some good points Ian, as always. I would have one concern though, Agar I understand wants to make some big changes for next season in terms of players coming in and players leaving. He has identified these changes and him goin now would mean that a new coach would come in without knowing all of what has gone on. I also don't want to see the players get their own way as imo they are the biggest problem and not the coaches.
I get the feeling the club will stick with Agar and let him call the shots for 2010.'"
Spot on that man
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| Quote: PAUL M "I don't disagree, we should have doen this when PS went, in fact we should have kept him until the end of the season then had a clearout of the coaching staff a bit like Hudds have done.'"
I'd be happy for Agar to stay if we knew he was going to be replaced by someone much better at the end of the season. I'd even be happy for us to get rid now and be without a head coach until a top class one can be found - even if it takes until the end of the season.
Then a total clean sweep of the coaching set up and playing staff (as much as is realistic) should take place and we can start again.
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Spot on that man
The big concern with that is, if nothing changes we'll have another season to write off.
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| Quote: Rock God X "The big concern with that is, if nothing changes we'll have another season to write off.'"
Maybe not, if Agar has a clear out this year and carries on with his recruitment which is looking healthy we should do well.
Then all we have to worry about are his interchanges
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "Odd team selection
Moa? Hall? To name but two.
You really reckon he's picked the best 17 each week out of that available squad?
Radford at 13 FFS!
Quote: berrigans bitch "poor tactics & general lack of imagination
All of them? In every game? And I'm not just talking about the game plan, I'm talking about our lack of trying something a bit different with the squad.
Quote: berrigans bitch "Agree his interchange policy is dubious, and possibly better options for LF'"
His interchange policy is sub-amateur, and there are few [iworse[/i options at LF.
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "Maybe not, if Agar has a clear out this year and carries on with his recruitment which is looking healthy we should do well.
Then all we have to worry about are his interchanges
And selections, tactics, defensive pattern, attacking pattern...
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| Quote: Kosh "Moa? Hall? To name but two.
You really reckon he's picked the best 17 each week out of that available squad?
Radford at 13 FFS!
All of them? In every game? And I'm not just talking about the game plan, I'm talking about our lack of trying something a bit different with the squad.
His interchange policy is sub-amateur, and there are few [iworse[/i options at LF.'"
Wow you need to chill fella! I gave you my opinion if you want to discuss fine however it appears you wish to argue
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| Quote: Rock God X "And selections, tactics, defensive pattern, attacking pattern...'"
Well you may have a point
However what we have to bear in mind is it is the players who have to follow the gameplan, defensive, and attacking and they are not producing we have a limited squad to choose from right now so the players have Agar by the b@lls.
The selection on occasions has mystified me however again we are unsure the extent of the problems behind the scenes which may well be contributing to this.
My biggest gripe with Agar is that he is carrying on playing these players he should now use the kids.
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