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Ahh Tesco Building St Helens & Warrington's future Destroying Wigans past "Viva Ben Flower, Viva Ben Flower, could have won the cup but you Messed it up Viva Ben Flower":



Quote: PAUL M "Club seems to be in very good shape, I would like a top coach and a top SH but other than that I would not change too much. We are developing good young players, we have excellent attendances (3rd best), we have an A license and despite all the moaning we are joint 5th and 4 points off 1st place.'"



But 1.7m in debt icon_confused.gif: and you need more than just a good SH icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Rommel "But 1.7m in debt
I love it when people bring up our supposed debt yet fail to acknowledge the constant record breaking in Season passes, shirt sales and merchandising as a whole.

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Quote: Rommel "But 1.7m in debt
You should be more concerned about Wigan overtaking you now icon_smile.gif icon_wink.gif

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Quote: pmarrow "I love it when people bring up our supposed debt yet fail to acknowledge the constant record breaking in Season passes, shirt sales and merchandising as a whole.'"


well said...last year we broke the £1million barrier for merchandise alone so i dont see how we could be in debt...no doubt we have not quashed all debts but this season should see them all a thing of the past. to come from massive debts to where we are now is a credit to the staff, players and directors of FC but i do feel there are a few weak links and our signing policy needs to be seriously looked at as we are slowly becoming a joke in the world of rugby league and famous for signing people before we have actually got them here and fit

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THANK YOU Mr. PEARSON, FOR RIDDING US OF FCKWIT FUBAR, CEO TOOL AND THE STINKING UNCLE KATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY DON'T THE DOBBINS PLAY IN GREEN SHIRT, GREEN SHORTS AND GREEN SOCKS IN ORDER TO EXPRESS THEIR INFINITE ENVY OF EVERYTHING BLACK AND WHITE??:icons42da_files/5424-2890lipst1ck_d0rk-msnicons.jpg



Quote: me 'n' our kid "As I said on previous post, last year doesn't count, the franchise is from this year.
Salford and Celtic only started this season for 3 years, this year isn't quite half way through and you are assuming that we will not be in the top 8. There's still a long way to go and a lot can happen to ANY team. I don't think the summing up of licences is due till the middle of 2011 season, if we do lose a point and drop to 'B' licence we still are gauranteed a further 6 years in SL.
Thats a long time for you to take the anti-depressants, and who knows we may STILL have a grade 'A' licence, and that will be a pill too difficult for you to swallow.'"


The licenses are announced in 18 months time so you work it out bright spark !!! And as for the anti-depressant remark, I'm more pi$$ed off than depressed because I can see us finishing outside the top 8 and that's all we deserve but you just carry on talking like a first class pr1k !!!

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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club. Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you. "Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005:



Quote: thehullwhitestar "The licenses are announced in 18 months time so you work it out bright spark !!! And as for the anti-depressant remark, I'm more pi$$ed off than depressed because I can see us finishing outside the top 8 and that's all we deserve but you just carry on talking like a first class pr1k !!!'"



Oh the irony

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THANK YOU Mr. PEARSON, FOR RIDDING US OF FCKWIT FUBAR, CEO TOOL AND THE STINKING UNCLE KATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY DON'T THE DOBBINS PLAY IN GREEN SHIRT, GREEN SHORTS AND GREEN SOCKS IN ORDER TO EXPRESS THEIR INFINITE ENVY OF EVERYTHING BLACK AND WHITE??:icons42da_files/5424-2890lipst1ck_d0rk-msnicons.jpg



Quote: fc baldy "Oh the irony'"



really ????

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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club. Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you. "Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005:



Quote: thehullwhitestar "really ????'"



Thought i was bad at calling people but 9/10 of your posts do.........real keyboardwarrior arent we.

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THANK YOU Mr. PEARSON, FOR RIDDING US OF FCKWIT FUBAR, CEO TOOL AND THE STINKING UNCLE KATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY DON'T THE DOBBINS PLAY IN GREEN SHIRT, GREEN SHORTS AND GREEN SOCKS IN ORDER TO EXPRESS THEIR INFINITE ENVY OF EVERYTHING BLACK AND WHITE??:icons42da_files/5424-2890lipst1ck_d0rk-msnicons.jpg



Quote: fc baldy "Thought i was bad at calling people but 9/10 of your posts do.........real keyboardwarrior arent we.'"


I think you need to read them again !! You have obviously not paid enough attention while reading them. I would say more like 1/100 actually, if that.

When I ask a genuine question about licenses, I don't expect someone taking the pi$$ or getting clever for no reason, that's all.

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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club. Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you. "Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005:



Quote: thehullwhitestar "I think you need to read them again !! You have obviously not paid enough attention while reading them. I would say more like 1/100 actually, if that.

When I ask a genuine question about licenses, I don't expect someone taking the pi$$ or getting clever for no reason, that's all.'"



Maybe because he answerd you and you didnt understand it.......he knew what he was saying and had a sly pop...no harm in that.

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Quote: fc baldy "Maybe because he answerd you and you didnt understand it.......he knew what he was saying and had a sly pop...no harm in that.'"


I understood it okay but just didn't appreciate the "sly pop".

Maybe I am pessimistic, depressed, frustrated etc... but I think that's only natural given the direction our squad has gone in the last three or four seasons. I certainly don't need somebody with B&W specs on taking the pi$$ out of me. Maybe I go too far sometimes but I cannot believe some people who will never here a negative word spoken about our squad.

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Quote: thehullwhitestar "I understood it okay but just didn't appreciate the "sly pop".

Maybe I am pessimistic, depressed, frustrated etc... but I think that's only natural given the direction our squad has gone in the last three or four seasons. I certainly don't need somebody with B&W specs on taking the pi$$ out of me. Maybe I go too far sometimes but I cannot believe some people who will never here a negative word spoken about our squad.'"

I think you need to chill out a bit TBH. I don't think the poster in question wears B&W specs particularly, and the comment wasn't really offensive.

Regards the license question, as usual with the RFL the situation is confused. The criterion about finishing places is based on an average over 3 seasons. That can't have started until this season as otherwise Salford and Celtic are screwed before they've even kicked a ball. On the other hand, the RFL stated that clubs would get 6 months notice of licence renewal, which doesn't fit with the first timeline. What will actually happen is anyone's guess, but it will almost certainly involve a fudge of some kind.

We have every chance of finishing in the top 8 this season even with our limited squad and coach, largely thanks to the tightness of the competition. If we finish top 8 next season as well I reckon that we'll keep the point and keep our A license. Even if we don't we can only drop 1 grade in any review so will have at least a B licence. That gives us plenty of time to turn things around.

In short - getting the A licence last year was absolutely key as it ensured 9 years worth of SL survival. A lot can happen in that time.

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Quote: Kosh "I think you need to chill out a bit TBH. I don't think the poster in question wears B&W specs particularly, and the comment wasn't really offensive.

Regards the license question, as usual with the RFL the situation is confused. The criterion about finishing places is based on an average over 3 seasons. That can't have started until this season as otherwise Salford and Celtic are screwed before they've even kicked a ball. On the other hand, the RFL stated that clubs would get 6 months notice of licence renewal, which doesn't fit with the first timeline. What will actually happen is anyone's guess, but it will almost certainly involve a fudge of some kind.

We have every chance of finishing in the top 8 this season even with our limited squad and coach, largely thanks to the tightness of the competition. If we finish top 8 next season as well I reckon that we'll keep the point and keep our A license. Even if we don't we can only drop 1 grade in any review so will have at least a B licence. That gives us plenty of time to turn things around.

In short - getting the A licence last year was absolutely key as it ensured 9 years worth of SL survival. A lot can happen in that time.'"


8 more years of mediocre rugby, but at least plenty of time to find a scrum half icon_wink.gif

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Its not that some people wear black and white specs all the time and wont hear a negative word said against the club. A lot of people like me are sick and tired of reading continuous negative threads about the club, and some people on here will turn every positive thread into a negative one, and by the looks of it this includes you. Try getting behind your club and supporting it instead of knocking it at every turn ffs.

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Quote: mancknocker "Its not that some people wear black and white specs all the time and wont hear a negative word said against the club. A lot of people like me are sick and tired of reading continuous negative threads about the club, and some people on here will turn every positive thread into a negative one, and by the looks of it this includes you. Try getting behind your club and supporting it instead of knocking it at every turn ffs.'"


I say it exactly as I see it !! In the last three or four seasons there have been many more negatives than positives but I don't just "knock at every turn" as you put it. I also post when we do something good and some of our signings have been very good ones.

As for the continuous negative threads, ofcourse there are, I'm sure you have you been and paid your hard earned cash time and time again only to be left feeling deflated having not got your money's worth. The amount of negative threads reflect our fans overwhelming feeling of frustration at seeing our steep decline and general lack of ambition when it comes to appointments of coaches and signings of players.

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