I'm sure people will be really positive to him, when he's gone.

I'm sorry Mrs Agar but in these difficult times, many people are under severe pressure to maintain their lifestyle.

Although I'm not a fan of your husband's management style or coaching abilities, I wish neither him or you any ill will.

I do hope he finds more suitable employment sometime soon [size=42(preferrably well away from Hull FC)[/size

mates?

give your head a shake karl,like ive said leave it while next season when hes got rid of who he doesnt want and brings in what he does want then its his team he will have no excuses if it doesnt work out,then just dont renew is contract SIMPLE AS.

Yeah, but next season he'll still have players he never signed and we'll still have injuries and we'll still have people making excuses for his ineptitude. If he were good enough he'd be getting the best out of the players he has and also be dealing effectively with those underperforming - drop them at least but he hasn't the balls

agar's strength seems to be in spotting young talent and bringint it into the club. IMO he should be doing the job lee crooks is, and I'm sure he would be top notch at it.

He doesn't appear to have the skills or personality required to be a head coach

To be fair - sometimes I blame Agar, other times I think it must be the fault of the players and then sometimes I think we are still 8th and playing e, when we get into our stride - Grand Final here we come. I don't know what's wrong I only know it does need sorting out now.

Well lets say if we win our next six matches will you all come crawling back

More chance of getting knocker to play 13 on friday

Whilst I agree mate to a certain extent I am finding it harder to believe in him for next season. He is still making mistakes every week in terms of squad selection and interchanges aswell as our gameplans still being poor and players not being motivated. He could have dropped players this week but never and if after 8 games next season nothing has changed that will be three season in a row that we will have written off. Imo he needs to show now what he can do and how ruthless he can be otherwise I will be fearing the worst for next season.

thats my thoughts too

Let's be fair, he's shown nothing in his time as coach to suggest he has the ability to turn us into a side capable of challenging for the SL title

He's not dropping anyone! Who is going to be made an example of? craig Hall is the only one so far!

Have to agree with you there. Whilst some players have to shoulder the blame, and Agar seems to be making the right steps in weeding out the bad apples and trying to change the culture at the club, I still dont think he has the necessary skills to be a top level coach. If it was just a case of him playing a style that he thinks suit the current players he has I could live with that (I wouldn't agree but I could live with it) but its all the other problems the team are having that is more of a problem.

easier target than kingy and radford

Exactly

Correct. I'd normally be in favour of letting a coach take a crack with a side he's built up himself, but in this case Agar has simply not demonstrated the necessary authority, ruthlessness, technical ability or tactical nous to make me think that anything will be substantially different next season.

We may be slightly less poor as the playing roster should be stronger, but that's not going to be enough if the coaching stays at the level so far demonstrated.

Kingy has been dropped quite a few times during Agars time in charge IIRC.

Has he? He's had plenty of injuries but I don't remember him being dropped. He did play a few 21 games before coming back into the 1st team

Wembley 2008.

Thacks also got dropped. Lets she what his team is on Friday

Really? He didn't play in any of the games leading up to the final and I thought he was injured for much of the season. Maybe played in the derby the following week

I seem to recall him being dropped for a derby game as well, though that may have been by Sharp? Thacks and King have both been dropped by Agar in the past though.

Agar stated after the last game of last season derby when we where embarrased in another derby! that changes had to be made and players had to go. So far he has done nothing, Sing went Retired, Dykes left retired, Carvell left for money. In my opinion has not got it in him to make big guttsy decisions but my biggest issue with Agar is the style of play he has us playing. We are in the bottom 3 attacking teams in the league and very predictable.

Whether people like if or not we have not been the same side since we lost Cooke, Carvell, Swain, Briscoe & Mcmenemy. We never replaced any of these players with players of the same calibre. (Before people say Berrrigan is , he's not in the same league as Swain and I think stats would back me up if you looked it up)

If the team of 2005 or 2006 teams played against the current team I reckon the current side would be on the end of a 40-50 point defeat. So in 3 or 4 years we have gone from been a team that was challenging the so called big 4 to a side that looks inempt in nearly all departments and struggling to finish in the top 8 and will most likely miss out and finish tenth.

I do agree we have had unprecedented problems with injuries over the last few seasons but our academy system is one of the best around with our juniors proving to be very good prospects. A good coach would improve these players along with bringing the best out of the senior players, under Agars stewardship how many players can you say have improved majorly! Most of our players have gone backwards!

I dont agree with the whole "its the boards fault" as I feel the main mistake they have made is appoint Agar who looks from the outside, comes across as a soft touch to the players. The board/shareholders saved the club less than ten years ago and have seen the business grow year on year and we are probably a comfortable top two club off the pitch. Which is why I believe we should be a top two club on the field.

So long as I have got hole in my a**e Agar will not lead us to two 2 and his signings for next season don't make me change my mind. Fitzgibbon has had his best years as has Long who has played in the most consistant side of the super league behind the best pack every year. I dont believe he is that good he never turned it on when his pack was beat which I know is rare that Saints pack gets beat but think back to the last two grand finals!!! Where was Long?

I do believe the board should make the decision now to get rid of Agar, Sharp and bring in a coach that will get the best out of the players that we have and hopefully get us defending hungrly like we used to and play rugby with a bit of flair.