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| Quote ="bonaire"May as well talk to the wall Wilf
That comment by Smith about the second half was the last straw for me
I seriously dont think his heart is in the job.There is no anger, no passion.
He will make it easy for Pearson and walk away'"
Don't talk nonsense. He was never going to turn it around in seven games and he's not the sort of coach who is going to lose his rag on live TV. That doesn't mean his heart isn't in it.
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| Don't know why it's difficult for some people to realise what Smith says infront of the cameras and what he says behind them will be different things.
7 games in and people are already calling for him to be sacked is pathetic.
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| Smith has been in this game for a long time and I've never seen him be anything but measured in front of the camera or when talking to the press. Why would he change that approach now?
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| Quote ="bonaire"May as well talk to the wall Wilf
That comment by Smith about the second half was the last straw for me
I seriously dont think his heart is in the job.There is no anger, no passion.
He will make it easy for Pearson and walk away'" You really do talk some Sh.ite
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| I’ve said this regularly
Of the 20 out of contract - only renew 3
simple as that
pick the 3 at the end of the season
there is a cancer in the Club
AP also is the Boss and Chief Exec - a lot of it now clearly lies with him !!!!!
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| Quote ="mwindass"Don't know why it's difficult for some people to realise what Smith says infront of the cameras and what he says behind them will be different things.
7 games in and people are already calling for him to be sacked is pathetic.'"
But the same players not up to it are still in the team week after week
Send a statement out and play some youngsters
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Don't talk nonsense. He was never going to turn it around in seven games and he's not the sort of coach who is going to lose his rag on live TV. That doesn't mean his heart isn't in it.'"
I am not just talking about 7 games i am talking about what he has also done with the team in Pre season.
The seven games we have seen say its been very little apart from producing an unfit squad who have lost the ability to tackle
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| Quote ="hull2524"You really do talk some Sh.ite'"
Lets see shall we
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| Quote ="bonaire"I am not just talking about 7 games i am talking about what he has also done with the team in Pre season.
The seven games we have seen say its been very little apart from producing an unfit squad who have lost the ability to tackle'"
We've just got a lot of players who aren't good enough
We've gone from having players like ellis minchello manu in our pack not that long ago to players like fash Griffin and lane
Even savelio isn't close to them players at their best
Smith and Pearson now have a great chance to get rid of the deadwood that are out of contract
But question is will he ? Cause worry is I can see a fair few getting new deals 
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| Quite easily, pound for pound, the worst hull side I’ve seen in my 20 years of watching them.
I think it sums up that 20 of them are OOC and they genuinely don’t look interested in earning a new contract, not that I’d want to keep them anyways, but at least some effort and desire.
Lovodua simply isn’t a half back, I sympathise with him to a degree that he’s been asked to do a job he simply can’t do but even his defence is poor. I never thought I’d be desperate for McNamara to be fit but here we are…
Really wanted Tex to do well here, and he still might, but he just seems like a young lad who wants to go back home. And in all honestly I couldn’t blame him. Shame about his injury, and hopefully nothing too serious, but it may spark the reshuffle in our spine we need.
Seeing quite a few posts showing sympathy towards AP and the DJ, mine only stretches so far, they were happy to sign up some of these clowns to their deals at the time. They are not rugby people who started to get involved in rugby decisions. Their naive approach to not replacing Motu Tony is what has found us in the position we are in and they only have themselves to blame for where we are.
To sum up, we are big time screwed, bleak times when you’re watching out for Wakey’s result each week…
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| Three Pigeons for second half with a few others who had baled.
We got the landlord to turn it off with 20 to go...........
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| Find the Hoy bashing mental too.
Most games he's been our top carrier, metre maker, tackle buster pretty much every game hes played in.
He was very good in the Cas and Leeds games. Even the Saints game.
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| Quote ="mwindass"Find the Hoy bashing mental too.
Most games he's been our top carrier, metre maker, tackle buster pretty much every game hes played in.
He was very good in the Cas and Leeds games. Even the Saints game.'"
Seens like he's bonaires new poster-boy. 
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| Not seen the game, bur Hoys stats look good, but his effort on Drinkwater was poor. Rovers fans seem to have a weird obsession with him. Think he will come good, particularly if the pack starts to play.
Their first 4 trys, 2 of them were from really good kicks which are hard to stop, a poor miss from Lovodua and a drop ball.
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| We’re going to have to ride this out with the players we have, as just dropping young players into a struggling team will just do more harm than good.
This isn’t Smiths first rodeo, and if anyone thinks that he is calm and passive behind the scenes then they’re deluded.
Also our great pack and team of 2016 didn’t have a great start. They had to lock the coach out of the dressing room, and come from 20 points down in a derby to kick start that particular season.
Difference is then we had leaders on the field. Now there aren’t any.
This must be Smiths most difficult job yet?
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| Wait? You've got 20 players off contract?
Did Pearson not see warrington last year with 15 off contract?
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| Quote ="Dave K."Not seen the game, bur Hoys stats look good, but his effort on Drinkwater was poor. Rovers fans seem to have a weird obsession with him. Think he will come good, particularly if the pack starts to play.
Their first 4 trys, 2 of them were from really good kicks which are hard to stop, a poor miss from Lovodua and a drop ball.'"
Rovers fans will constantly bring up his comment pre season about striving for top 4 or to win the league, and make fun of it.
I don't understand why. Every single team in the league, Wakefield included, are trying to finish top 4.
We've been absolute awful. Doesn't mean we wasn't ever trying to get top 4.
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| Quote ="mwindass"Find the Hoy bashing mental too.
Most games he's been our top carrier, metre maker, tackle buster pretty much every game hes played in.
He was very good in the Cas and Leeds games. Even the Saints game.'"
Disgusted with some of the abuse aimed at Hoy.
As you say, he was very good against Cas and Leeds and his stats speak for themselves.
People seem to forget that these guys are human beings and some of the vile things that have been said are completely out of order.
He's 23 who has moved to the other side of the world and i don't think people realise what a big change it is for these people.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Wait? You've got 20 players off contract?
Did Pearson not see warrington last year with 15 off contract?'"
I think it includes a handful of kids from the extensive fringes of their squad. But they do have a lot of experienced, more recognisable players OOC as well.
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| Quote ="Hasbag"Rovers fans will constantly bring up his comment pre season about striving for top 4 or to win the league, and make fun of it.
I don't understand why. Every single team in the league, Wakefield included, are trying to finish top 4.
We've been absolute awful. Doesn't mean we wasn't ever trying to get top 4.'"
According to the HDM didn’t Tex say something along the lines of “ Rovers wouldn’t win a Derby whilst he was at FC”. Which if he did say that it was a very silly thing to say about any club.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"I think it includes a handful of kids from the extensive fringes of their squad. But they do have a lot of experienced, more recognisable players OOC as well.'"
Yes, the list is:
Adam Swift, Ligi Sao, Danny Houghton, Chris Satae, Andre Savelio, Brad Fash, Joe Lovodua, Joe Cator, Kane Evans, Cam Scott (one-year option), Ben McNamara, Connor Wynne (one-year option), Mitieli Vulikijapani (one-year option), Josh Griffin, Denive Balmforth, Jamie Shaul, Scott Taylor, Brad Dwyer, Kye Armstrong, Jude Ferreira.
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| Quote ="mwindass"Couldn't be bothered to watch the game today. 1st half sounded abysmal reading stuff online.
Can't see where the next win is coming from to be honest.
Think we need some signings to come in ASAP. Something needs to change. If Wakey get an upturn in form we're stuffed'"
I completely agree, and while I'll be there Good Friday, it could be our bleakest day since the 42-6 Cooke inspired Rovers hammering of us. We just look half hearted, hardly fit and with no playbook. I know that it is hard to be up for a job knowing you are getting fired but no sportsman I have ever known has ever not played for their own pride. This team are not top six material, we all knew that and that it would be a hard year, but I never imagined it would be this bad. I just hope they can have an honest review and own their pathetic displays with a view to actually trying against Rovers. That is all we have asked of them and what they owe themselves and the fans.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Yes, the list is:
Adam Swift, Ligi Sao, Danny Houghton, Chris Satae, Andre Savelio, Brad Fash, Joe Lovodua, Joe Cator, Kane Evans, Cam Scott (one-year option), Ben McNamara, Connor Wynne (one-year option), Mitieli Vulikijapani (one-year option), Josh Griffin, Denive Balmforth, Jamie Shaul, Scott Taylor, Brad Dwyer, Kye Armstrong, Jude Ferreira.'"
I had hoped we'd have kept Sao and Satae, both have been our best forwards for the last two seasons, but Ligi isn't showing anything and big Chris has been a shadow of what he was , even when we were getting hammered, he was a standout. Motu Tony has offered to help the club and I seriously hope we take him up on that offer, he signed some great players for us when he was the Football Manager and he will know some young guns that would jump at a chance to showcase their skill in SL.I thought Balmforth would have been given a shot, Danny Houghton is clearly a year too old and I hope we have Mitch on the wing against Rovers , as McIntosh needs taking out of the pressure for a while to help him regain his confidence, poor kid looks lost some times and it cannot be good for him, mentally, to be always called out.If Wynne has sorted his issues out, I'd keep him for a year but of the rest, Andre Savelio and Dwyer would be the only ones worth a punt, in my opinion.
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| Quote ="GrahamBray" McIntosh needs taking out of the pressure for a while to help him regain his confidence, poor kid looks lost some times and it cannot be good for him, mentally.'"
Mcintosh hasn't been selected for the past 3 games. He's played for the reserves last couple of outings. That's his level imo.
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| How we need an Ellis type of player right now to lead from the front . Someone to inspire those around him .
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