For me the signing of Washbrook suggests Westerman is going as otherwise signing him makes no sense. Why sign him as a third loose forward? Why sign him as back up second row when it isn't his best position and we already have plenty of back up?

However if we decide Abdul is our long term LF and is now ready for it...but obviously can't play the full season 80 mins every week...he will need some experienced support on and off the field...suddenly signing Washbrook on a fairly modest contract makes perfect sense.

As for Westerman, he's a good player but the dictionary definition of 'flatters to deceive', he will be up for auction in a a year when contract is up so we decide to cash in when we can. Radford is comfortable with this as he has rightly identified a culture of a lack of hard edged professionalism as behind our long term underachievement. Therefore out go those who don't fit in with that. Some fans don't like losing some of these players but are first to complain we lack the mentality of the successful teams.

Sums it up for me.

Embarassing thread.

Player of the year last year, not bothered if he leaves this year.

Some of our 'fans' really embarrass us.

There are also people that actually watch matches objectively. All people should try this, it's quite rewarding.

IMO Westerman needs to step up now as a senior player. I lost patience with him, but he played really well second half of last season and I was happily proven wrong. Not doing it this season. Needs to improve IMO.

Still waiting for examples of poor attitude.

In your own time.

Yeah. That would be me. It clearly wouldn't be anyone who 'wouldn't be bothered' if Westerman left. Unless that person knew nothing about RL.


He's had a major injury and a change of role in the team. I doubt he's happy with his form himself, but sometimes coming back from that kind of thing takes a while.

Joe gave a decent example last night for you ....

Apparently so. Not like we've got a big week coming up is it?

My 2p's worth from a Rovers fan, Joe Westerman with a different attitude could have been a star big time RL star.
If he had got his head down, trained hard & been a super professional that is........
Sometimes kids don't grow up how you want them to and the lure of drink and mates when you come from a Castleford council estate sometimes proves too much.
Good player but could have been so much better imo.

Abdull told he was starting today last week, maybe Westy was rested?

People need to wait and see the full facts. If he was dropped or rested and he has been out then it's a non issue. Could be a bitter ex.