so 1st half defending well

to 2nd half dropping off tackles

and that makes warrington far better

no it doesnt no pride thats what it is

Oh thats ok then, so he can keep doing it as long as we dont get punished.

i guess? what does it matter if they dont score

Or, just bad luck?

I understand that perfectly and would have done so even if it wasn't in bold.

The fact is, we are underachieving. The players we have should be doing better than they are.

What a load of bollox. You can have as much pride as you like but if the players opposite you are better (props/scrum half for example) you will lose more games than you win.

Or, just possibly, we are knackered after doing bags of defensive work against a far larger and better pack on a really hot day.

Just for the sake of balance, like.

These players could have all the pride in the world but it wouldn't stop us getting beat by teams with higher ability, that is a factual statement. To say we are getting beat by a good Warrington side because of a lack of pride is an assumption.

Like there 1st try...plenty of mistakes but that one stuck......just to provide some balance like.

I thought you'd been banned from posting on this thread

9 substitutions, 3 left.

Has Houghton come on yet?

Putting him on the bench in case Berrigan has to come off is pointless. Especially when they have a bigger pack.

What a mistake to drop Thorman

One of the best full backs to ever grace the black and white shirt.

Whose Gary Kemble ?

Pride has nothing to do with it.

OK then when has this group of players ever achieved better than it is now ? You say they should be achieving more but I say that Morley is better than Dowes, Carvell is better than Radford, Monaghan is on a different planet to Lee, King/Bridge are better than G Horne etc.etc. etc.

LMAO. Pure Quality.

We are, but not as much as Wire. They have a much better squad of players than we do and a far superior coach. If both sides played to the best of their ability, you'd expect Wire to win.

silly i know, but if they dont score off the error then so what?

And to say we're not is also an assumption. There may be a lack of ability and pride. I don't know if that's the case today and neither do you (or Danny2, for that matter).

Let's not forget, Warrington were below us in the table before today's game.

Wrong.

I always expect Hull to win.

Eh?

And they are the underachievers not us. We are slightly above where we should be in the league in terms of squad capability.

Really?

Right. Motu Tony knocks on and gives tem a fresh set of 6.

That knackers our players as it means they have to defend more.

Later in the game they're too tired to play the best of their ability so Warrington score.

Wire scored points off Motu's mistake.