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| Quote ="Standee"The Times wrote:
"A diet of "acceptable" stories squeezed through the Hull PR sausage-making machine is no way to communicate with fans, let alone the wider public, who seem to have been overlooked in this indulgent spat.
It's also a self-serving policy by a club seemingly happy to inhabit its little bubble. Too many clubs have taken the anodyne route of public relations spin and communiques that often smack more of paranoia than any genuine insight. This isn't communication, it is stifling debate and free speech"
and I couldn't agree more, petty and childish are words that spring to mind.'"
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What Chris Irvine doesn't understand is that this is not merely about one or two unpalatable stories that Hull FC has objected to. If it was just this then the banning probably does appear petty and un-self-serving to an outsider. He does not listen to the blatant negativity spewing from Burns and his Sportstalk programme night after night. It's not just about what is said, it's the general tone that is adopted to refer to all things Hull FC, the sing, the nudging encouragement to callers jumping on the anti-Hull bandwaggon, the amount of texts chosen to be read out poking fun at or bad-mouthing the club.
The fact is that the Sports Editor of ONE of our local radio stations does not like Hull FC, and takes every opportunity to diffuse his hatred throughout the city. This is dangerous and ultimately damaging and cannot be tolerated by our club.
Burns, sadly, is the Head of Sport at Humberside and this puts him in a powerful position. Until he goes or has a marked change of attitude (unlikely, I know) Hull are right in my opinion to castrate him with regard to fresh news.
Contrary to Irvine's belief, Hull have not cut-off the local media and have not isolated themselves in a "little Bubble" as he says. As for his "diet of acceptable sausages" or whatever he's on about - rubbish. Irvine mysteriously has chosen not to be aware of our alternative local radio stations, our local press and the rest of the BBC, Sky etc. etc. (with all of whom Hull remain friendly) in order to make a cheap point and spice up what is pretty much a non-story teetering on the wrong end of the stick.
He's right on one thing, though. "Rule has ruled" and about time too for me.
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| Quote ="barham red"In all fairness to HKR and PC he has never been proescuted for being a woman beater and at the time of signing had not had a conviction for drink driving, therfore RH could not report it. The Reardon thing was never soley about his pending sentencing, but to do with the timing and the percieved link with the clubs launch of its initiative on domestic abuse. I wont go into the actual content as I don't know enough about the initiative to say whether trying to sign reardon was a faux pas, but it did allow the brick throwers an opportunity to fill there boots.
My main point was that if the perception of FC fans was that your doing well this year then I don;t believe RH would be banned. As it is the general perception is that your struggling and as such the PR machine has set itself in motion to divert some attention from the heirarchy of FC and channel the anger towards the bbc.
Personally I think your season although not sparkling is going pretty well considering. As most of your fans would admit you haven't been in anything like top gear this year and the play has been hit and miss, yet you still find yourselves in a position that sees you having more wins than losses, in the play off slots and only 3 points off 2nd place. Granted the next 3 matches are v.tough and 1 win from them would be a reasonable result, but I feel FC will hit form at some point this year and that could be good enough to get you a top 4 finish (no one else is setting the world alight, well except us..
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In summary the RH phone in is never a place for getting actual facts, more a place to mock the afflicted of both sides who 'never went to the game but the ref was crap' who phone in and embarrass our game. If I were the club I'd rise above it, let RH, KCFM etc get on with producing semi laughable programs and turn the negative into a positve and understand its better to be talked about then ignored.'" Most eloquently put,it,s that good i thought it was a wind up coming from a dobbin 
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| I expect an apology about the whole sorry episode to be winging its way from the BBC in Leeds pretty soon!! 
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"I expect an apology about the whole sorry episode to be winging its way from the BBC in Leeds pretty soon!!
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well it certainly wont be coming from burns will it?he will be too busy cosying upto anyone with a connection to rovers,and promising them to talk utter crap on his radio show!!i just wonder how long it will be before his bosses at the local beeb,finally say to him,enough is enough david,were moving you on somewhere else?we live in hope!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"well it certainly wont be coming from burns will it?he will be too busy cosying upto anyone with a connection to rovers,and promising them to talk utter crap on his radio show!!i just wonder how long it will be before his bosses at the local beeb,finally say to him,enough is enough david,were moving you on somewhere else?we live in hope!!!!!!!'"
burn apologised to tingle aleady.
Does this mean they will talk to humberside again.
I'm sick of propaganda fm.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"I expect an apology about the whole sorry episode to be winging its way from the BBC in Leeds pretty soon!!
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Carpet actually mentioned on Sportstalk the other night he had phoned Richard Tingle and apologised for any uncalled for remarks. Maybe this is the start.
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| Quote ="clubfoot fc"icon_biggrin.gif
burn apologised to tingle aleady.
Does this mean they will talk to humberside again.
I'm sick of propaganda fm.'"
The only difference between the two stations is which club the propaganda favours TBH.
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| The ambulance chaser realised some time ago that the way to get burns onside is though his more than ample stomach (Unsurprising that a fat bloke responds well to food). Our chief exec should take a leaf out of his book, take burns out for a few beers and a curry and get him singing our praises. Another very easy fix for the club
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| Quote ="Kosh"The only difference between the two stations is which club the propaganda favours TBH.'"
tbh your probably right but at least with humberside they sometimes ask challenging questions. On kcfm we've got our media manager presenting the show.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"I expect an apology about the whole sorry episode to be winging its way from the BBC in Leeds pretty soon!!
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Are you sure youve got the right end of the stick 
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Are you sure youve got the right end of the stick
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You mean w're apologising to radio leeds over the cooke fiasco?
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| Quote ="WormInHand"No.
What Chris Irvine doesn't understand is that this is not merely about one or two unpalatable stories that Hull FC has objected to. If it was just this then the banning probably does appear petty and un-self-serving to an outsider. He does not listen to the blatant negativity spewing from Burns and his Sportstalk programme night after night. It's not just about what is said, it's the general tone that is adopted to refer to all things Hull FC, the sing, the nudging encouragement to callers jumping on the anti-Hull bandwaggon, the amount of texts chosen to be read out poking fun at or bad-mouthing the club.
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You must listen to a different station to me. I listen to sportstalk every night and find myself looking for things that are said anti-Hull. I'm sorry but I just don't buy any of it coming from either Burnsy or GL biased against Hull FC.
As far as i'm concerned it did start with the Cookiegate affair. I don't for one minute hold anything against GL for breaking the story. He's a journalist and thats just what they do its as simple as that. Since then our board have alienated themselves from everybody time and time again with lack of communication with us fans, petty boardroom squables with the Hull KR board and again with Radio Humberside.
What amuses me more than most other things is that many on this board will criticise our club for a certain thing and then as soon as GL or Burnsy mention the very same thing threads are started slamming Radio Humberside again.
We have an impartial station and a station designed to be Hulls propaganda machine. If Hull FC don't want negative publicity then they should stop creating it.
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| Its time the club made their peace with Humberside radio. Radio Humberside are a major media outlet for RL in this area and the ban by FC, does the club no good at all.
I also think that Humberside should hold out a olive leaf to the club, because they should have a duty to us the licence payer to provide us with a FULL sports service.
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| I don't know whether Burns and Lloyd are biased in favour of Rovers or not. What I do know is that a lot of Hull fans believe them to be biased and that is something which they, as professional journalists, employed by a public service broadcaster, need to address.
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"I don't know whether Burns and Lloyd are biased in favour of Rovers or not. What I do know is that a lot of Hull fans believe them to be biased and that is something which they, as professional journalists, employed by a public service broadcaster, need to address.'"
To be fair regarding the club its the club that aren't talking to Radio Humberside not the other way around. Radio Humberside still broadcast the games as normal.
Regarding the Sportstalk show they still report and debate Hull FC issues and invite Hull fans on to discuss these.
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| Quote ="KNOCK OFF NIGEL"To be fair regarding the club its the club that aren't talking to Radio Humberside not the other way around. Radio Humberside still broadcast the games as normal.
Regarding the Sportstalk show they still report and debate Hull FC issues and invite Hull fans on to discuss these.'"
So, in practical terms, the ban is having little effect on listeners to Blunderside and the fans in general?
Lot of fuss over nothing then.
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| Quote ="KNOCK OFF NIGEL":8wgw5loqTo be fair regarding the club its the club that aren't talking to Radio Humberside not the other way around. Radio Humberside still broadcast the games as normal.
Regarding the Sportstalk show they still report and debate Hull FC issues and invite Hull fans on to discuss these.'"
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| Quote ="60532"Its time the club made their peace with Humberside radio. Radio Humberside are a major media outlet for RL in this area and the ban by FC, does the club no good at all.
I also think that Humberside should hold out a olive leaf to the club, because they should have a duty to us the licence payer to provide us with a FULL sports service.'"

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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"I don't know whether Burns and Lloyd are biased in favour of Rovers or not. What I do know is that a lot of Hull fans believe them to be biased and that is something which they, as professional journalists, employed by a public service broadcaster, need to address.'"
 you consider those 2 journalists. 
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| Hope this is the last time. Our Board and CEO act like little primary school kids taking their ball home. Just show some pride, laugh it off and do the talking on the pitch!
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| It's amazing how easily a simple apology will get a ban lifted. If only one had been forthcoming at the time of the original request a whole lot of fuss could have been avoided.
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Burns should have apologised face to face, but all in all, a sensible outcome.
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Burns should have apologised face to face, but all in all, a sensible outcome.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Burns should have apologised face to face, '"
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