Watts has been great this season. Big and aggressive but on the right side of the line. Partly down to him realising he needed to do it I would think and probably responding better to Powell than he did to radford. He also does long minutes which is invaluable in the current game with fewer interchanges. I miss him as part of our team and don't really see us replacing what he brought to the table easily. I hope he gets the GB call this time and he deserves it more than Taylor who I don't think will make the tour

On top form, there’s not much between them, he’s is badly missed, and has shown form which would alert the NRL. If the owner admits it was a mistake to sell Liam, that probably sums it up, the owners had the balls to admit it, we have to move on.

Watts has left, hes gone, he doesn't play for us anymore, he plays for cas, not hull fc, how many times do we have to listen it was a mistake to let him go, maybe it was we don't know all the facts, but repeating it over and over again isn't gonna change anything, time to move on

Indeed. Hope Taylor gets a nice rest. Clean bill of health Cameron Scott apart for pre season.

Jones has been bang average for Salford tonight. How the hell is he up for MOTM?

Well said. Mind you some people still bang on about Schofield leaving over thirty years ago.

jones is solid in defence and puts in a massive workload. If you could mould a radford type player he would fit right into it. Not dynamic but just the type of player we need. Hopefully Mau and Savelio will bring more dynamism to the 2nd row

Hope Jones brings some tips and Videos of how Salford are training and playing along with him. Yes they have a top class player in Hastings but there's a massive difference in attitude and effort than what we've been serving up. Players taking the ball up keep their legs pumping after contact being just one example.

Also Watson is getting much improved performances from players who are distinctly average or past it, such as Inu and Welham.

Jones is very attacking, breaks the tackle loads and is one of the top offloaders in SL.. What do you class as dynamic?

Watts last action in an FC shirt. Home game against Warrington, I think it was the first game after the Australia trip,. Last ten minutes, the games already won, we're just playing out the last few minutes, we have the ball, Watts takes it in, gets up and headbutts a Warrington player, gets himself a 3 game ban for no reason but his own indiscipline.

The previous season I think he was sent off 3 times, now at least 1 of those sending off's was harsh, but I'd assume that his targets for 2018 were to improve his discipline, headbutting a player for no reason is not improvement, it's going backwards.

I can see why he was let go.

He had a seiously out of sorts game last night then.

No he didn't.

123 metres
22 carries
4 tackle busts
31 tackles

how many metres and carries sideways?

I'll reserve judgement until I've seen him in the B&W Hull FC kit, many seem to rate him.

Same sideways metres as Minichiello then

be interesting to compare the two for metres gained.

Season stats

Minichiello
App 24
Metres 2011
Av gain 6.93
Offloads 14
Tackle busts 66
Carries 290
Clean breaks 6
Tackles 529
Errors 28

Jones
App 28
Metres 3383
Av gain 7.34
Offloads 58
Tackle busts 157
Carries 461
Clean breaks 8
Tackles 702
Errors 10

Thanks CoyH, is "gain" metres forward or metres covered from receiving the ball to being tackled/offloading?

Well he made the Dream Team and think he finished something like top of the comp for tackle busts, 4th for offloads and the only forward in the top 5 for metres? Certainly not a signing to be lukewarm about IMO.

In my opinion Josh Jones is the best back row forward in Super League. Outstanding player.

Is he? I've never really noticed that in his game when I've seen him but admit I've not really seen him play that often. A real grafter with great defence is what I have seen but hopefully I'll see this attacking flair next season then.

Personally I don;t think we've had enough out of our back row in the last couple of seasons. 2nd rowers should be scoring more tries and having more assists than ours have so hopefully we'll get that threat out wide again next year

We don't run the lines for second rowers to take the ball at pace and our acting half distribution is woeful at times.

Not to mention Cooke. (Damn,I just did.)

It doesnt help when all our second rows are used as front rows

Yep I do Feckin Judas

Many rate him as he's..
Made dreamteam 2nd row
Been selected for GB (not easy as a Salford player)
Finished the year as

Top tackle buster in the league
3rd top offloader in the league
4th top carries in the league
5th top meters in the league (Only 1 of 3 forwards in top 20)

You've managed to watch a game were he's got voted by fans across the game as MOM and made 31 tackles 4 busts 22 carries 123m 1 offload no errors no pens and said he was rubbish
It's probably fair to say you're not the best judge tbh