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| Quote: PAUL M "He is quite good and has the potential to get better. The thing is he is the type of player that we in Britain don't produce, when was the last time we had that type of impact player? We just don't produce them and they do help the balance of a squad.'"
Think you might be on about different players there, Paul. 
I think Standee was talking about Cusack. |
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| Quote: carl_spackler "The month in which he signed? 
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| Quote: Robbo4 "I'd say its more likely to be the point at which the player was registered with the RFL. My biggest problem with it is that he is Australian so cant be classed as Fed trained anyway ![]()
Not read the rules on this bit personally, only seen the verdicts on here, so don't know how that goes TBH.
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| Quote: carl_spackler "Not read the rules on this bit personally, only seen the verdicts on here, so don't know how that goes TBH.'"
The fed trained part only applies to Kolpak players. No matter how many Kolpaks we get as Fed trained we can still only have a maximum of 5 Quota players. |
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| Quote: Robbo4 "The fed trained part only applies to Kolpak players. No matter how many Kolpaks we get as Fed trained we can still only have a maximum of 5 Quota players.'"
Yeah, I've seen that interpretation on here, just not read the rules to see how that conclusion's been reached. No disrespect to anyone on here, I'm just not necessarily going to take it as fact on someone's say so. |
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| Quote: carl_spackler "Yeah, I've seen that interpretation on here, just not read the rules to see how that conclusion's been reached. No disrespect to anyone on here, I'm just not necessarily going to take it as fact on someone's say so.'"
From the RFL operational rules.....
[iEach Club shall be entitled to register only the Quota of "overseas Players" in all squads set out below in each season save for those Clubs which are granted an exemption in such form as the Board shall decide:
Maximum Number of Overseas Players - 2008 onwards Super League |
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| Quote: carl_spackler "Yeah, I've seen that interpretation on here, just not read the rules to see how that conclusion's been reached. No disrespect to anyone on here, I'm just not necessarily going to take it as fact on someone's say so.'"
I've emailed the RFL for clarification on this point. I'm pretty sure the dispensation doesn't apply to Overseas Players (e.g. Aussies and Kiwis) but let's see what they have to say. |
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| Quote: Robbo4 "From the RFL operational rules.....
[iEach Club shall be entitled to register only the Quota of "overseas Players" in all squads set out below in each season save for those Clubs which are granted an exemption in such form as the Board shall decide
I saw that quoted, and then I think I also saw somebody say about the non-federation rules being an amendment to the operational rules (part 2 or something). Is that about right?
If so, that's where my doubt kicks in. If the non-fed stuff is indeed an amendment to those rules outlining overseas players, the exemption only seems to mention non-federation trained players as a whole, it doesn't distinguish. I'm therefore wondering if the RFL have indeed extended it to all overseas players in the interests of fairness to the clubs.
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| Quote: Kosh "I've emailed the RFL for clarification on this point. I'm pretty sure the dispensation doesn't apply to Overseas Players (e.g. Aussies and Kiwis) but let's see what they have to say.'"
That's probably the best way, hear it from the horse's mouth. |
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| Quote: carl_spackler "I saw that quoted, and then I think I also saw somebody say about the non-federation rules being an amendment to the operational rules (part 2 or something). Is that about right?
If so, that's where my doubt kicks in. If the non-fed stuff is indeed an amendment to those rules outlining overseas players, the exemption only seems to mention non-federation trained players as a whole, it doesn't distinguish. I'm therefore wondering if the RFL have indeed extended it to all overseas players in the interests of fairness to the clubs.'"
Its not. Kolpak players are now whats classed as the non fed/club trained players and the exemptions apply to them. Overseas players has been a maximum of 5 since the new changes were brought in.
Having said that......the following is the exact wording taken from the new rules
[iCLUB TRAINED
B1
With the following clause for 2010....
[iB1
No mention of an "overseas" limit in those rules  All very confusing. |
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| Quote: Kosh "I've emailed the RFL for clarification on this point. I'm pretty sure the dispensation doesn't apply to Overseas Players (e.g. Aussies and Kiwis) but let's see what they have to say.'"
So even you are starting to doubt it |
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| Quote: Kosh "I've emailed the RFL for clarification on this point. I'm pretty sure the dispensation doesn't apply to Overseas Players (e.g. Aussies and Kiwis) but let's see what they have to say.'"
I think all players get dispensation, the only thing that is confusing to me is what the RFL mean by been in the game before Feb 08, does it mean contracted before that time or does it mean to have played before that time. |
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| Quote: carl_spackler "Think you might be on about different players there, Paul. ![]()
Indeed I was.
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| Quote: Robbo4 "No mention of an "overseas" limit in those rules ![]()
The Overseas Player definition and limit is in Part 3 of the rules for some reason.
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| Quote: FC Mute "So even you are starting to doubt it ![]()
I'm happy I've interpreted the published information correctly.
This being the RFL, I'm not 100% happy that the published information is correct. 
And why are you doing an Enlightened?
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