failing that its gotta be Thorman or Tingas fault

No where near the fall guy, Thorman was his display also detracted a fair bit of attention from a lot of players short comings. However I agree best to see how things pan out.

I knew you would.

There are a lot of folk in the team that have to live up to their pre season hype lets hope they all do at the same time huh, just as Fozzard drives it in for the first time !!

and meets ....wait for it....

AN HAME OF ONE!!! be on a t shirt in a week


ok im off

There were plenty of games last season where Horne was alot worse than Thorman, especially in defence which used to be 1 of Horne's big strengths.

It may sound harsh and blunt however i think Horne is on his last legs and we need to start grooming Washbrook/Turner for the 6 role.

Don't know about last legs, that might be a bit premature. He does however need a big season and he might just deliver with having someone like Long to take the pressure off.

spot on, he has had a really hard time with getting used to the diabetes and that took its mid season last year, after starting off very well

he'll suprise his doubters this year

Here's hoping. We have more depth about the side this season especially within the forwards. No player should be in a comfort zone this season.

I hope its premature however its his defence that is the massive worry for me as our right edge defence was a shambles last season and against Rovers he was falling off of tackles.

correct mate.

also with a fit squad agar will put players in the team who are on form and thats how it should be,thats why i think whiting will start against saints.

That's been the biggest problem in his game since his injury/illness. He used to be a target in defence when stood at 2nd row to tire him out. Now he's a target when stood at centre because he rarely makes the first impact count. With the ball, he'll still produce what he always has alongside a good and dominant organiser, but defensively, he's a massive worry.