Dont disagree with that view. I reckon the words "counter attack" need to be re-introduced also. There vis clearly mush wrong with the current state of affairs. I really do think the whole playing ethos needs looking at. Red, amber and green zones have much to answer for. If we actually looked like we had an idea in the green zone it would help. Back on the scrum half issue, we need a Burrows or similar though I know they dont come around very often.

Rose tinted!!

Manu is the only forwad who consistantly looks to offload.

Moa got into a couple of great positions to off load only to find no one backing up. The likes of Jon Wilkin / Gareth Ellis would have had a field day.

Our offensive line is horizonal. How cvan we expect to break through when we stand so flat.

the crazy thing was, the 3 time we ran from depth and into gaps, we scored!

Too much head down and run directly at the opposition. No one running angles, no one using anything like a side step.

Thats why I cannot understand the championing of certain players we have when in essence they appear to know very little about the basics of the game.

There is no style. 4 drives and a kick or 5 drives and a kick, even in their 30 isnt good enough.

We shifted it wide once and scored early. We shifted it again and Hall dropped it so we didnt try it again. We seem to be playing safe rugby continually frightened of not completing sets. I'd rather we completed 50% of the sets but tried to score out wide rather than safe forward drives all the game.

And very little play.

No worries all Rovers have to do is make sure the 2 square markers are good tacklers as we like to run strait into those!

I reckon 80% of tackles made on us are within 5 meters of the PTB by square markers. (except when we get the Horne "show n go")

I was told by a player last season that the reason we go down the middle is usually to tire big packs out and then exploit them. We dont seem to be tiring them or exploiting them, i would think its more logical to throw it out wide and run the big guys around?

Intheir last few games Salford shipped a boat load of tries on the fringes, so we play them up the middle.

You couldn't make this up.

It's like playing an RL Manager computer gam on the "I'm 5, please let me win" level.

Is it out on PC? where do you get it from?

No, it's not available nowadays.

But I am winning an auction on "Janet and John play expansive rugby" on ebay.

what super league are you watching? half the games ive watched this season ive felt embarrassed for the sport at the ease with which teams are scoring. hull been utter crap isnt defenses becoming dominant