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To me it’s pretty simple, our defence has been laughable, we were a team disjointed, unhappy and it showed in abject performances, resulting in alarming score-lines.

Our coaches have done a fantastic job in resolving this issue, we are far from the finished article, we all know we need to play more attacking footy, but come on, a poor performance, we hardly had the ball, three tries to two, and we beat one of our most difficult opponents on their own ground. Without half of the front row.

Enjoy the ugly victory, we are a developing team, and I’m sure as Hodgson further implements his own recruiting, we will start expanding our attack.

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Quote: scarrie "The errors and lack of flowing attack yesterday can in part be attributed to the weather, but more worrying to me is the extent of penalties and set restarts we are regularly conceding.'"


On the plus side we didn't have anyone sin binned this week!'"


And none of us got wet stood on a western terrace either icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Chris71 "And none of us got wet stood on a western terrace either
Still had to listen to the god awful drummer though. I wish he'd advance from monotonous thumping.

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Quote: Riderofthepalehorse "To me it’s pretty simple, our defence has been laughable, we were a team disjointed, unhappy and it showed in abject performances, resulting in alarming score-lines.

Our coaches have done a fantastic job in resolving this issue, we are far from the finished article, we all know we need to play more attacking footy, but come on, a poor performance, we hardly had the ball, three tries to two, and we beat one of our most difficult opponents on their own ground. Without half of the front row.

Enjoy the ugly victory, we are a developing team, and I’m sure as Hodgson further implements his own recruiting, we will start expanding our attack.'"


The bit in bold is why people are asking questions as that is what is concerning that the reason we didn't have much ball particularly in the 2nd half was our own doing from poor discipline, giving set restarts regularly and not being able to complete a set. This is ok if its a one off but its becoming a bad habit and means we are putting more pressure and workload on our ourselves by doing an awful lot more defending than we should be.

As I've said I don't think anyone has been scathing or said anything that is over the top, most if not all have said that defensively credit is due but that the giving away of cheap ball will hurt us if that nettle is not grasped, even Griff said as much in his aftermatch interview on SKY.

If we had been a little bit more switched on and less eager to gift Leeds ball and territory in our half then we'd would likely have had a much more comfortable win.

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Quote: scarrie "And none of us got wet stood on a western terrace either a014.gif

Though I must admit that the following in regards to Prior using his head to butt Connor is laughable

Details of allegation: Head butting in 17th minute
Decision: NFA
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Reason for NFA: Player is trying to extricate himself from the tackle. Opponent is keeping himself tight.

So any player now has 'carte blanche' to head butt an opposing player if they don't let go in the tackle d040.gif

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Quote: Chris71 "The bit in bold is why people are asking questions as that is what is concerning that the reason we didn't have much ball particularly in the 2nd half was our own doing from poor discipline, giving set restarts regularly and not being able to complete a set. This is ok if its a one off but its becoming a bad habit and means we are putting more pressure and workload on our ourselves by doing an awful lot more defending than we should be.

As I've said I don't think anyone has been scathing or said anything that is over the top, most if not all have said that defensively credit is due but that the giving away of cheap ball will hurt us if that nettle is not grasped, even Griff said as much in his aftermatch interview on SKY.

If we had been a little bit more switched on and less eager to gift Leeds ball and territory in our half then we'd would likely have had a much more comfortable win.'"


Discipline is going to haunt us unfortunately, with Connor and Reynolds we’ve got two of the most annoying players around.

But the line you’ve taken out and highlighted, was not referring to discipline, but probably Leeds ability to pin us back in the pack, due to Taylor and Bowden not being available, leaving us short on go forward all the second half.

Fashy does well when he’s on, but we struggle when Big Chris or Liggy go off. As I said I’ll take this win ugly or not.

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Quote: Chris71 "To be honest I was very surprised they allowed the trumpet players bearing in mind social distancing and mask are still required.'"


I thought the whole arrangement was odd from what I could see on TV. Looked like whole sections of seating empty while people were stood very close in the standing areas. Very haphazard and certainly a lot less strict than what was in place at the KCOM last Monday.

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Quote: Riderofthepalehorse "The bit in bold is why people are asking questions as that is what is concerning that the reason we didn't have much ball particularly in the 2nd half was our own doing from poor discipline, giving set restarts regularly and not being able to complete a set. This is ok if its a one off but its becoming a bad habit and means we are putting more pressure and workload on our ourselves by doing an awful lot more defending than we should be.

As I've said I don't think anyone has been scathing or said anything that is over the top, most if not all have said that defensively credit is due but that the giving away of cheap ball will hurt us if that nettle is not grasped, even Griff said as much in his aftermatch interview on SKY.

If we had been a little bit more switched on and less eager to gift Leeds ball and territory in our half then we'd would likely have had a much more comfortable win.'"


Discipline is going to haunt us unfortunately, with Connor and Reynolds we’ve got two of the most annoying players around.

But the line you’ve taken out and highlighted, was not referring to discipline, but probably Leeds ability to pin us back in the pack, due to Taylor and Bowden not being available, leaving us short on go forward all the second half.

Fashy does well when he’s on, but we struggle when Big Chris or Liggy go off. As I said I’ll take this win ugly or not.'"


Its not the ill discipline of Connor or Reynolds though but the ill discipline in the ruck partcularly and dumb stuff we are making a habit of which undermines a lot of the hard work they'd done.

Classic example of this was when we'd been coughing up the ball, continually giving set restarts within our 40 and 20 then when we get the ball back we make a good solid effort with a good kick from Sneyd to pin them back in their own 20 only to give a stupid penalty away and invite them back in to our 40 again. Then the more pressure we put on ourselves and the heavier workload to defend just multiplies the errors/penalties we give due to fatigue.
However at least we now have a cohesive team that work for one another where as before it would have resulted in capitulation.

It wasn't about Leeds having any ability to pin us in our own half as we are doing a better job of that than any of their forwards, had Leeds been a better side then we would have paid for the amount of ball and territory we gave them.

There is no doubt that missing Taylor and Bowden we lack real go forward when Satae and Sao go off which is why the non use of Brown is being questioned as he is a bright talent and has played well when given the opportunity.

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Quote: Chris71 "Its not the ill discipline of Connor or Reynolds though but the ill discipline in the ruck partcularly and dumb stuff we are making a habit of which undermines a lot of the hard work they'd done.

Classic example of this was when we'd been coughing up the ball, continually giving set restarts within our 40 and 20 then when we get the ball back we make a good solid effort with a good kick from Sneyd to pin them back in their own 20 only to give a stupid penalty away and invite them back in to our 40 again.

It wasn't about Leeds having any ability to pin us in our own half as we are doing a better job of that than any of their forwards, had Leeds been a better side then we would have paid for the amount of ball and territory we gave them.

There is no doubt that missing Taylor and Bowden we lack real go forward when Satae and Sao go off which is why the non use of Brown is being questioned as he is a bright talent and has played well when given the opportunity.'"


Chris you know around the ruck, it’s a lottery who gets pinged, you’ve said yourself, head scratching to see what we do any differently to other teams. There’s no arguments from me regarding us being as squeaky clean as we can possibly be.

But in the rain and the wind, against a full strength Leeds, we did them, lacking Brown, Taylor, and Bowden. Result icon_biggrin.gif

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But regarding Jack Brown, there must be something that’s causing his omission from the side. It’s funny since his agent was publicly saying how good he was, he’s not been seen. Well actually he was warming up with the players against the Cats

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Quote: Riderofthepalehorse "Chris you know around the ruck, it’s a lottery who gets pinged, you’ve said yourself, head scratching to see what we do any differently to other teams. There’s no arguments from me regarding us being as squeaky clean as we can possibly be.

But in the rain and the wind, against a full strength Leeds, we did them, lacking Brown, Taylor, and Bowden. Result
Indeed I have and it is a lottery but we were certainly pushing things and never heeded that we were getting stung by it, some of the errors even allowing for the the weather were just daft ones and giving unnecessary penalties away.

Don't get me wrong I am very pleased with the win and that even playing as poorly as we did overall we still dug in and ground out the win.

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Quote: Riderofthepalehorse "But regarding Jack Brown, there must be something that’s causing his omission from the side. It’s funny since his agent was publicly saying how good he was, he’s not been seen. Well actually he was warming up with the players against the Cats'"


I thought he may possibly not be quite fit but them seeing him as you say in the pre game warm up kind of answered that. Maybe his attitude has been a little off since his agent talking in the press or maybe that his agent has offered him round has annoyed the club who knows but its strange.

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Quote: Chris71 "Indeed I have and it is a lottery but we were certainly pushing things and never heeded that we were getting stung by it, some of the errors even allowing for the the weather were just daft ones and giving unnecessary penalties away.

Don't get me wrong I am very pleased with the win and that even playing as poorly as we did overall we still dug in and ground out the win.'"


We will play better and lose, I’m just glad the teams first footing is togetherness, it’s a transformation, and hopefully we will improve as the season progresses.

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No idea how many 6 agains we've conceded but Phil Clarke did say last night that we've been awarded the fewest in the league. What are we doing different to the other teams? Certainly seems a lottery & a bit of a cop out for referees.

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