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[quote="Wellsy13":1juz9zgo]To us REAL fans, there's no better feeling than winning competitions. Getting to a final is next. Then a top 6 finish or semi-final appearance. Then I suppose the derby counts as the most important league fixture.
Us real fans don't look over our shoulder at our neighbours and do whatever we can to get one over on them. We look at the bigger picture. And this is the reason why Rovers are and will forever be considered a small club. Because their fans and board would rather get one over on Hull FC above anything else.
Quite sad, really! [/quote:1juz9zgo]
SPOT ON!
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| Quote: Kosh "What part of spelling players to avoid exhaustion are you and Agar having difficulty with?
Very few forwards can operate at anything like 100% for 80 minutes. We had players on the pitch who were absolutely bolloxed towards the end of Friday's game and fresh guys sat on the bench. That's just poor.'"
I understand the problem, I was just pointing out the other side of the argument.
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11526.jpg "Richard Agar, get out of my club!!!"
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| Kear took us on a good cup run but we had an inconsistant league season, yet we still came 5th. In 2006 he got sacked after 3 defeats in 8 (not sure if that figure includes the Bradford cup game though).
Sharp had a fantastic 2006, but slow start in 2007. He turned us around and we came 4th (but 5th best in the league due to Wigans deducted 2 points). He was then sacked despite a 'nightmare' injury situation.
Agar takes over and despite taking us to the cup final (a win against a very poor Bradford that day, but an unusual good attacking performance in the semi) he makes us worse in the league. He starts off the season good but its obvious that it papers over the cracks with a run of 2 wins in 11 and by the time we play at home next, it will be nearly 4 months without a home win.
So the point I'm making?
Despite inconsistances, Kear and Sharp proved that they could get good rugby from the players yet they were sacked. The majority of the players in the current squad played under one or both. So Agar has no excuse for not getting better from his players. He has proved that the majority of the time, he cant get the best from his players, far from it. Very rarely have we got a performance that is on par with how well the players can actually do.
Sharp had tons of players injured, yet he got sacked. It can not be used as a defence from the board as a reason as to why we are doing poor now.
The question I have, and obviously alot of other fans now have, is why is Agar still in the job when his predessors (sp) have done better than him yet found themselves out the job? I actually agreed with the decisions to sack Agar and Sharp before, albeit Sharps sacking came a little too late for my liking. There is no excuse as to why he is in the job still. He has players good enough to not be playing so poorly, they have proved it before. He is an awful head coach and the board, for once, need to spend money on a fantastic coach. In the long term it will save them money from sacking other coaches, plus more fans will go to games and I'm sure sponsorship would go up to as a result
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[size=200:1381yqo4] OLD FAITHFUL [/size:1381yqo4]: |
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| Quote: The Key "Kear took us on a good cup run but we had an inconsistant league season, yet we still came 5th. In 2006 he got sacked after 3 defeats in 8 (not sure if that figure includes the Bradford cup game though).
Sharp had a fantastic 2006, but slow start in 2007. He turned us around and we came 4th (but 5th best in the league due to Wigans deducted 2 points). He was then sacked despite a 'nightmare' injury situation.
Agar takes over and despite taking us to the cup final (a win against a very poor Bradford that day, but an unusual good attacking performance in the semi) he makes us worse in the league. He starts off the season good but its obvious that it papers over the cracks with a run of 2 wins in 11 and by the time we play at home next, it will be nearly 4 months without a home win.
So the point I'm making?
Despite inconsistances, Kear and Sharp proved that they could get good rugby from the players yet they were sacked. The majority of the players in the current squad played under one or both. So Agar has no excuse for not getting better from his players. He has proved that the majority of the time, he cant get the best from his players, far from it. Very rarely have we got a performance that is on par with how well the players can actually do.
Sharp had tons of players injured, yet he got sacked. It can not be used as a defence from the board as a reason as to why we are doing poor now.
The question I have, and obviously alot of other fans now have, is why is Agar still in the job when his predessors (sp) have done better than him yet found themselves out the job? I actually agreed with the decisions to sack Agar and Sharp before, albeit Sharps sacking came a little too late for my liking. There is no excuse as to why he is in the job still. He has players good enough to not be playing so poorly, they have proved it before. He is an awful head coach and the board, for once, need to spend money on a fantastic coach. In the long term it will save them money from sacking other coaches, plus more fans will go to games and I'm sure sponsorship would go up to as a result'"
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| I think the main reason he has not been sacked is obvious.
1, He is cheap
2, There is no relegation
3, He is cheap
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| Quote: hullbg "I think the main reason he has not been sacked is obvious.
1, He is cheap
2, There is no relegation
3, He is cheap
etc etc'"
Yup
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32641_1503834456.jpg The poor man's bonaire:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_32641.jpg |
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| Quote: PAUL M "Agar has his failings but you do realise that if Agar goes then Sharp takes over.
We would all like a complete change with the Head coach but it's just not going to happen so if you want Agar sacked then good luck with Sharp.
I'll stick with Agar for now.'"
I'm not sure the club would appoint sharp as the full time coach TBH. Interim certainly but I actually think they may take more time to make a reasoned choice next time. Or maybe they're as stupid as we all think they are
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "I'm not sure the club would appoint sharp as the full time coach TBH. Interim certainly but I actually think they may take more time to make a reasoned choice next time. Or maybe they're as stupid as we all think they are'"
It'll be the latter.
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| Kear and Sharp weren't good enough yet they gave the job to their understudy, intersting. Someone like Ian Millward is needed to shake this club up before it's too late.
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| Quote: Dr Hfuhruhurr "Kear and Sharp weren't good enough yet they gave the job to their understudy, intersting. Someone like Ian Millward is needed to shake this club up before it's too late.'"
Like he did at wigan?
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Like he did at wigan?'"
He was undercover at Wigan
Just think we need someone with a bit carisma. You can see why the players don't look interested if Agars press conferences are anything to go by.
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| Tim Sheens under pressure to keep his job at West Tigers,what a catch he would be,but he would cost plenty.
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| Quote: Isaiah "If relegation was an issue, would your opinion be different?
I agree with Kosh, in that I have never slated a coach (well not since Walsh), but I fail to see any signs from Agar, that gives me any hope for next season or beyond.
I am quite happy if the club are taking advantage of the 'no relegation' period, as an opportunity to rebuild, develope and restructure the team, rather then knee jerk reaction and panic buying.'"
Bump!
Paul M; "If relegation was an issue, would your opinion be different?"
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| Quote: DABHAND "Tim Sheens under pressure to keep his job at West Tigers,what a catch he would be,but he would cost plenty.'"
My point for last 10 years -we can pay our coach what we like .......but a board made up of non Hull born bred Hull fans etc WILL NOT stump up the cash as it comes out of their profits each year.
A board of true Hull fans would be happy to break even each year as long as we were competitive.
Mike Ashley at Newcastle expected to lose £20 million a year from his own pocket but wanted success ........our board want success but not at risk to their profits and loan repayments.
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| Quote: Tarquin Fuego "My point for last 10 years -we can pay our coach what we like .......but a board made up of non Hull born bred Hull fans etc WILL NOT stump up the cash as it comes out of their profits each year.
A board of true Hull fans would be happy to break even each year as long as we were competitive.
Mike Ashley at Newcastle expected to lose £20 million a year from his own pocket but wanted success ........our board want success but not at risk to their profits and loan repayments.'" Hate to put a dampner on it, but what happened to Newcastle again?
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