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| Quote ="boardwalkempire4"I personally don’t think Connor is best fb at our club. His lack of pace and poor temperament really doesn’t cut it for me. You look at the professional culture at saints then compare to our squad.
We have 3 big egos in the pivots
Connor Reynolds Gale.
As the wigan game showed our lack of composure in a tight game let us down
Fans get caught up in the stats that connor has the most try assists ..
Flip side is that we run our attack through him and him alone ..
Until he does it in the “ big “ games against the big teams then he won’t make England’s number 1 full back'"
Exactly
Apart from passing a ball and a kicking game that's the only things Connor has over Shaul
Shaul is miles faster, has a support play, brilliant in broken field, better defender all the things you need to be full back
Connors defence is just embarrassing at times for a full back and it's costing us a lot
Basically teams break our line these days they score!
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| this is the Emperors clothes
Jake is not a FB - not as long as I have a hole in my back passage
No pace - questionable tacking technique - no experience in his life of being a FB - he probably doesn’t even like it
He’s a 6 - end of
for those old enough - it’s like playing Toppo or John Newlove at FB because they’re good ball handlers
I’d deffo have Wynne in and move Jake to 6 and next season save Grubs money to pay off debts, as per 21 accounts.
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"Apart from a 1 semi we didn't have no big games in that period as we underachieved big time
People like you ignoring Connors big mistakes all the time is both weird and bizarre esp in big games like I said
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How well did Shaul play 'big games' the last few seasons, when he was the starting full back?
(In league games against Wigan & Saints)
[iConnor would be a world beater if we was allowed to play Wakefield or Salford 28 games a year instead of saints Wigan etc but we can't[/i
What's bizarre & weird is people like you who can't see how limited Shaul is as a modern day full back.
I've no doubt you'll mention how Shaul scored at Wembley 6 years ago, which we're all greatful for, but it doesn't change the fact that Shaul was a part of our problems towards the end of Radfords reign.
Plus Shaul missed his fair share of tackles too. You're making out he was a brick wall after an opponent made a break. If anything it was the opposite with us shipping massive points from 2017 onwards on a pretty regular basis.
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"Not even close to the best full back in super league
Field, French, Tompkins all far better even lomax is better at full back than Connor
Oh shaul would [have tackled field last night fact.... So basically we'd have still been in front'"
Thst's not a fact, it purely hypothetical.
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| Quote ="boardwalkempire4"I personally don’t think Connor is best fb at our club. His lack of pace and poor temperament really doesn’t cut it for me. You look at the professional culture at saints then compare to our squad.
We have 3 big egos in the pivots
Connor Reynolds Gale.
As the wigan game showed our lack of composure in a tight game let us down
Fans get caught up in the stats that connor has the most try assists ..
Flip side is that we run our attack through him and him alone ..
Until he does it in the “ big “ games against the big teams then he won’t make England’s number 1 full back'"
So in your opinion who is the best fullback at FC then?
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| 1st look on here since the game, no way should we have lost that game. Game management at the end was very poor, Sneyd would have directed the team to get him in front of the posts for a DG, Connor and Gale couldn't do that. Those two loose passes from Connor in the last 10 were very poor. All game I thought Connor was trying too hard. Hopefully he'll learn from it. I'm convinced if we had made that tackle on Jai Field we would have won.
Focussing on positives, Lovodua was superb. Brown, Fash and Johnstone put in great stints, Mau gets better every week and Sao and Satae performed well. We've the makings of a decent top four side, onto the Cup and a few beers in Magic Rock brewery.
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"Exactly
Apart from passing a ball and a kicking game that's the only things Connor has over Shaul
Shaul is miles faster, has a support play, brilliant in broken field, better defender all the things you need to be full back
Connors defence is just embarrassing at times for a full back and it's costing us a lot
Basically teams break our line these days they score!'"
Connor isnt the best FB in the league like you'll said I said, which i never had and he has flaws, but the positives far outweigh the negatives and unless we sign a better FB than Shaul or Wynne, who neither have the skill set to be a modern FB he has to stay there particularly with the options we have at halfback.
What I find funny is that you haven't posted on here for the last few games and as soon as Connor does something wrong you are on here in shot, that's easy to do, but you didn't post after Leeds and other games.
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| See Houghton is being back to being flogged, when you have another hooker on the bench (although not a very good one) use him at hooker.
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| Quote ="Woods1969"So in your opinion who is the best fullback at FC then?'"
Brett Hodgson
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| Quote ="Dave K."What I find funny is that you haven't posted on here for the last few games and as soon as Connor does something wrong you are on here in shot, that's easy to do, but you didn't post after Leeds and other games.'"
Pretty sure he served a ban for an ugly term he used a while ago.
Everyone can see that most of our creativity has come from Connor due to players missing. Gale back is a massive plus and Reynolds due back next week is even better. I’d play Lovodua at loose man, drop Lane to the bench instead of Johnstone. That’s a very good spine. Bring Lane on to spell Houghton moving Lovodua to hooker. Is Evans fit?
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| Chris Hill who is 34, did 24 hit ups last night.
Satae and Sao didn't do that between th, in fact it's not even close.
They should each be doing 15 minimum, I dont understand this obsession we have with the amount of work ours backs do.
Who is going to get more meters Satae or Mcintosh?
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| There doss seem to be an inconsistency with the workload distribution.
Against Leeds the pack really stepped up and it showed, was it the short turnaround why we seemed to use the backs more against Wigan?
At the end of the day I thought we were the better team, it was poor end game management from a new creative partnership in Gale and Connor that probably meant we didn't take the 2 points. I'm very sure that partnership will learn from this one and improve.
The on the pitch signs are positive, very aggressive kick chase and following defence. Strong performance with Taylor and Evans to return, we have the fringe players all playing well, let's be positive eh. Its a tight league and we're well amongst it.
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"There doss seem to be an inconsistency with the workload distribution.
Against Leeds the pack really stepped up and it showed, was it the short turnaround why we seemed to use the backs more against Wigan?
At the end of the day I thought we were the better team, it was poor end game management from a new creative partnership in Gale and Connor that probably meant we didn't take the 2 points. I'm very sure that partnership will learn from this one and improve.
The on the pitch signs are positive, very aggressive kick chase and following defence. Strong performance with Taylor and Evans to return, we have the fringe players all playing well, let's be positive eh. Its a tight league and we're well amongst it.'"
We've had quite a few players who've had really strong starts to the season like Swift, Lovodua, Fash - exceeding expectations. But we've also got a lot of £ tied up in the stands - Reynolds, Gale, Tuimavave, Taylor, Evans - 5 who've barely played but on big wages. Taylor apart we need to be getting these back soon and delivering
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"A bitter Saints fan only blaming Hull's errors for Wigan's win.Most Hull fans are happy with the performance not the result. No credit to Wigan at all I notice. No need to worry you will be champions but Wigan are a bigger club than Saints. Enjoy your success.'"
I wouldn't worry. Notice how he appears on the boards of teams who've played Wigan to spout his garbage. I hadn't realised you'd played Saints this week. Obsessed much? I'll let you decide
Great game on Thursday. Could have gone either way.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Connor isnt the best FB in the league like you'll said I said, which i never had and he has flaws, but the positives far outweigh the negatives and unless we sign a better FB than Shaul or Wynne, who neither have the skill set to be a modern FB he has to stay there particularly with the options we have at halfback.
What I find funny is that you haven't posted on here for the last few games and as soon as Connor does something wrong you are on here in shot, that's easy to do, but you didn't post after Leeds and other games.'"
Leeds seemed like a great result at the time but they've proved how mediocre they are and are a bottom 4 club these days so again he performed against a struggling side
He go's missing against the top dogs
You can't honestly be proud off his tackling attempt on field?
Apart from passing catching and kicking what are Connors fullback skills?
Hes no pace
Can't tackle
No support play
Not great at retuning the ball with any real threat like shaul is
Funny all them are Shauls main assets though
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| Can't argue with the effort , Just one missed tackle , one piece of Jai Field magic ,without these we could of had the 2 points . We have set a good bench mark with that performance , hope it continues and not just fade away into a another mediocre season .
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"Leeds seemed like a great result at the time but they've proved how mediocre they are and are a bottom 4 club these days so again he performed against a struggling side
He go's missing against the top dogs
You can't honestly be proud off his tackling attempt on field?
Apart from passing catching and kicking what are Connors fullback skills?
Hes no pace
Can't tackle
No support play
Not great at retuning the ball with any real threat like shaul is
Funny all them are Shauls main assets though'"
Shaul hasn't had any assets since 2017.
Connor is a better running, particularly close to the line.
Decent support play too, too of my head supporting a break against Sheffield last week and Warrington at home last season.
When was the last time Shaul did that?
You are also not mentioning that Shaul us injury probe now, his time at Hull is finished.
Pace is Connors main problem, but his other skills more than make up for it.
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| Connor v Shaul, who should play, decision has been made by one of the greats in this position, pretty much game over.
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| The fact we haven't beaten the top dogs in SL for 2/3 years means the team doesn't step up, not just Connor.
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| Quote ="Dave K."The fact we haven't beaten the top dogs in SL for 2/3 years means the team doesn't step up, not just Connor.'"
We need some East Riding referees Dave.
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| Quote ="Dave K."See Houghton is being back to being flogged, when you have another hooker on the bench (although not a very good one) use him at hooker.'"
Was waiting for someone to mention this
We need to get a running nine in this team like Parcell showed last night
It was also Houghtons crap pass to the floor that led to Wigans try
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| Quote ="bonaire"Was waiting for someone to mention this
We need to get a running nine in this team like Parcell showed last night
It was also Houghtons crap pass to the floor that led to Wigans try'"
Think we have one, unfortunately he also seems to be our most dangerous halfback.
Still annoyed that Radford didn't play Litten enough and allowed him to leave.
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"Leeds seemed like a great result at the time but they've proved how mediocre they are and are a bottom 4 club these days so again he performed against a struggling side
He go's missing against the top dogs
You can't honestly be proud off his tackling attempt on field?
Apart from passing catching and kicking what are Connors fullback skills?
Hes no pace
Can't tackle
No support play
Not great at retuning the ball with any real threat like shaul is
Funny all them are Shauls main assets though'"
You think Shaul can tackle??
Seen many a player run past/through him over the years.
In fact very few full backs can tackle these days. It’s a dying art.
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| Shaul can’t tackle and neither can Jake
one of the main reasons Jake struggles v the Top teams is that he’s too busy defending all the time
He’s shattered coming out of his own half
that’s why your best ball players play at 6 so they are fresh when attacking
you don’t ask your best bowler to take wicket when he’s not bowling and also open batting
In a tough match Jake would be shattered defending , and this is what’s happening.
Get Wynne at FB and move Jake
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"Shaul can’t tackle and neither can Jake
one of the main reasons Jake struggles v the Top teams is that he’s too busy defending all the time
He’s shattered coming out of his own half
that’s why your best ball players play at 6 so they are fresh when attacking
you don’t ask your best bowler to take wicket when he’s not bowling and also open batting
In a tough match Jake would be shattered defending , and this is what’s happening.
Get Wynne at FB and move Jake'"
Wynne isn't even our best reserve fullback.
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