Really? Apart from our cup run I remember us playing some pretty dull stuff under Kear.

All coaches, good bad and indifferent, will have periods where things don't go to plan. This is when supporters have to cut them a bit of slack and carry on supporting both the coach and the team. Whilst I was never 100% convinced with Radders appointment, he is now our coach and I will continue to give him my support in the hope that he will do the business for us. Anyone saying the season is over needs to get a grip.

This^^ while the results haven't been as good as we hoped for the first time for a good while iam enjoying the style of attacking rugby we are trying to play.

Our current problem is one of timing. Just when we get an owner who has some cash and is prepared to spend it in reality there's no one to spend it on. Even the has been Australians can get a decent deal in the second grade these days and don't need to come over. The best British talent is in short supply and has lots of outlets in the NRL and RU and that makes it tough to rest those that stay here away from their clubs. Usually those clubs are already successful or have a more probable chance of success than us and have money too.
The squad we've got is pretty average and lacks class. God knows what McRae was doing! It also lacks intelligent players and basic skills which means we constantly make mistakes and take wrong decisions. That's dangerous with an average squad as is proving to be the case. Even where the players perhaps lift their game and compete with the opposition there's always someone who will do something stupid and either keep them in the game or worse. I think Radford is absolutely aware of that and is trying to address it. I'm not convinced any other coach would be able to get any instant change out of the players in the squad so maybe Radford getting them to play at 100% every week is the best short term option. Bringing through our own young players is also sensible though that isn't going to be a quick fix either and relies on there being talent of the right quality in numbers out there in the first place. For the time being at least we have to accept what we are and not harbour unreasonable expectations. I just hope that we see evidence of the right type of recruitment policy from now on which should be to work with what we have unless there is someone significantly better and in particular we should be willing to pay big money to players who are skilful , intelligent and can lead on the field.

your boring Seb. Your not even worth a constructive reply.

Noble is 'considering Salfords offer' of being Director Of Rugby, but his body language on the BBC today looked like he is thoroughly peed off with the situation! and he hinted he would be taking legal advice.

i.e. I reckon he'd be up for it if Hull rang him. I know he isn't everyone's cup of tea, but he's the experienced coach with contacts that we need IMO. I think he has been very harshly treated at Salford, 3 wins from 7 so far isn't all that bad considering their best two players have missed games (Chase has been injured for a few games and Hock banned) and the team needed time to gel with so many new signings.

Adam won't be getting rid of Radford just yet a while and anyway if he did he'd be no better than Koukash. Talk about a knee jerk reaction and for me Harris, Hay and Long is certainly no instant receipe for success, he'd have been better sticking with Noble! There will be some tears before bedtime at Salford before long me thinks!

Let me get this straight, you think we should do to Radders what Salford have just done to Noble after admitting you think he has been harshly treated?

My thoughts too Wilf.

Stick with Radders. We're building a young team. Harris now has to work with Dads Army and Koukash breathing down his neck,

Hows that for pressure?

experienced coach with a millionaires cheque book more like..or was, knee jerk by the doctor me thinks getting rid of nobby..i would take the pay off & walk if i was him..because the doc has got blokes in the jobs required but to me it looks like they are just puppets & hes pulling the strings.

Apparently Matthew Elliott has been sacked by NZ Warriors. It's a shame he wasn't available last September.

Noble is a 3 time Grand Final winning, Ex-GB experienced coach not a former player in his first job which is the big difference.

Also Radford took over a side that finished 6th the last 2 years, not one that finished 11th and 14th.

So basically... yes that is what you are saying.

He's not worth any sort of reply. Quite obviously hates Hull FC and puts them down at every opportunity.

Yes I am saying Yes, there's no room for sentiment in sport, Radford isn't performing, there are no green shoots (in my eyes of course) that we are about to turn a corner and go on a good run. He has struggled during a period that was meant to be easy with all the home games...ditch him now before the rot sets in even further.

Who do you suggest then bud?

Noble is the only credible experienced option at the moment, while he has his flaws, I think he would at least halt the decline and steady the ship.

whoever we get in it has to be an experienced coach who has been there and won things, we've tried this 'hire the assistant and hope for the best' routine 5 times in a row now and it doesn't work.

Noble would walk across broken glass to coach a club like ours.
But instead we stick with the toothless amateur coach who only puts the kids on the naughty step.

Of course he would, he's past it. Experienced - yes but just not very good any more.

Anderson as done ok...same as Brian mac at Leeds he won nothing at London..a big part is the squad you inherit imo.

I can't think of anyone cheaper and I realise the club is on a budget when it comes to coaches.

can't be that good or the doc would be keeping him as coach.

You might want to take a look at some of the rumours coming out of the Salford dressing room over the last few weeks. Players 'baffled' by Noble's coaching methods and game plans, astonished at how out of touch he was with the modern game, etc.

I wouldn't touch Noble with a bargepole personally.

The thing about the likes of Anderson, McDermott and Wane is that whilst they've all done well in their respective jobs they have either all served quite a number of years as an assistant coach, youth coach, or done an apprenticeship at a lesser team which has given them the experience they need to make the step up to their current roles. Radders has only done two years as an assistant (although he has a lot more years under his belt through his amateur teams) and this may ultimately prove the difference for him. Time will tell.

As I've said previously, in hindsight I think we should have gone for Noble when Agar left. I think he could have sorted the team out and laid some foundations for a successor (Radders) to build on. Had he been available when Gentle left I would have probably said the same thing as I would have preferred an experienced coach to another promoted assistant. I've not heard the rumours that Kosh has mentioned so can't comment on them.

But the fact is that Noble wasn't available when Gentle left and AP chose Radders. Just because Noble is now available doesn't mean that we should dump Radders. He needs time to prove that he can/can't do the job. 7th in the league after seven games is a pretty good start I think. It certainly doesn't warrant sacking just because someone else is available. I've been a bit critical of some of his methods and what I feel have been mistakes so far but I aren't calling for his head. He needs time.