I just hope we can persuade Manu to stay, as replacing him and Mini would be really hard.

Talanoa is the hard one, so effective on his day, but has issues with defence and no pace.

I would like to see Griffin replace him, as I feel it is his best position to use his skills.

Sign an overseas

Josh Jones or Taai (Or similar type) to replace Mini

Connor/Abdul to replace Kelly.

Agree with most of the above though for some reason whilst Connor linked up well with Kelly it doesn't seem to work too well when its Connor/Sneyd together for some reason.

I agree with that, the Connor/Kelly combination was great but Connor/Sneyd seems really stilted.

To be honest Dave i dont think we can replace Kelly with what he currently brings to the team.Our attack is lost without a piece of Kelly magic.
Sneyd/Connor just doesnt work and i have not seen enough of Abdull to say he could be our 6 next season.
We need to keep Manu as I think its Minis last season.
I agree on Talanaoa.he is becoming a liability in defence so its a difficult one for club.
I see what you mean about Griffin but for me he just doesnt cut it as a centre or wing.What you are suggesting is a replacement for Talanoa but he is the same with poor defence and is no faster than Talanoa.You can count on one hand the number of decent games he has had since been at the club and his try scoring record is dreadful.Very poor signing but i would still use him off the bench as an impact player until we get some injured players back.

agree with most of that Bonaire, but imo griffin has been one of our best backs this year , topping metres gained, always makes hard yards,

Agree re Griffin, think because he does not rip up trees in a way a lot of what he does goes unnoticed plus we still don't use him to his strength by getting the ball to him early enough.

Thats why i keep saying play him off the bench as an impact second row because the other aspects of his game are poor.
He will never be a quality centre.His reading of the game,defence,and assist passing to his wing all very poor.Has no footwork to beat a man but like you say makes hard yards at times with his power.
His try ratio for game time sums it up.
Must be a wingers nightmare having Griffin as a centre partner.
Living off the MPG at HKR for me.

matty russell? jesus, are we that desperate for a squad filler? He's hopeless. I would be less than impressed if we replaced one of the top 5 props in the comp with warrington's 5th choice winger

definately a backward step but there could be some truth here as Radford has said many times he likes Russell because he makes metres from the play the ball.
Just dont get this blinkered part of Radfords coaching that your a good player if you make metres from the play the ball.

yeah, so blinkered we've won back to back CC's and finished in the semi's. I have been Radford's biggest critic on the past, but he clearly knows what he's doing...

Maybe so but what I do notice about Griffin is his switching off and lack of commitment in defence.

It is costing us.

He made no effort to tackle Webster at Cas and he had a free run to the posts for a crucial try just before half-time.

At Salford the crucial try came when Johnson made a break from dummy half because Griffin at marker switched off and made no effort to tackle him.

He needs to greatly improve that side of his game.

Yes but that team included Gaz Ellis,Watts and Fonua
At the moment we are miles away from those performances on the field

Salford match emphasised the fact that games are won in the forwards.
With Watts gone, Mini & Washy likely to go later this year plus Kelly, imo were gonna need a prop, second row and a new half (to help inject some more guile into this team).
Dropping one of Fash, Masi, Lane or Turgut into our gameday 17 is great but playing a few of these lads all at once against a rugged and experienced pack will see us over-run like we were on Friday. Any new forwards need to be a bit nasty as we're just too nice at the moment! Maybe it's also time to replace Talanoa with some real pace next year as we're too predictable and maybe teams have worked us out (not that difficult)!
Bit early to write us off just yet this year but all teams need to morph and evolve as they go along to offer new and different threats.

I get the feeling Sneyd maybe overawed by Connor hence poor communication

We had a replacement in Rawsthorne but we let him go

yes but Radford has an ace up his sleeve With take the ball up a few metres Russell

Does he, any quotes from Radford about signing him, or are you just using a rumour to have a dig at Radford?

no and yes
wouldnt be very happy to see the club sign Russell.We dont need any more utility players.

Griffin admitted he was lazy at the beginning of the season
Leopards never change their spots and what I can only assume we’re seeing is the laziness that never really goes away

We don't play to griffin's strengths. He needs quick ball to give him space to work in but he rarely gets it. He isn't a 2nd rower either

Giants fought tooth and nail to keep Connor but Reds let Griffin go

So they didn't offer him a new contract when we signed him? Surprised at that

I post on the fly and living over here I am not privy to all the news/views.

I just go back to the "I've been lazy" comment. Alarm bells went off for me as soon as I saw that.

Lazy in training, lazy in studying your opposition centre, lazy in practicing defence etc etc

Tom Brady works harder than 99% of the players in NFL - check out his results

All players like quick ball Jake,but good players can and do make space for themselves.
In my opinion Griffin isnt a good centre and you say not a second row then what is he?
He is a tractor when we need a fast car, but in light of our current injuries i would still use him off the bench as an impact second row

as much as we often disagree, Griffin isn't SL stsndard, he's lazy, slow and doesn't play for a team. He only cares about himself, I'd rather see someone who cares about the club than watch his lard backside waddle to the nearest defender.