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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Yeah, you got me on that one but I was 12/13 right'"

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| As long as at the end of the season we are in the top 2/3 then we're safe from any relegation threat.
And yes, in the top 2 or 3 would be even better.
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| I can't see that Radford will have learned anything from yesterday's game, apart from maybe the fact that our squad players who wouldn't normally make the 17 weren't up to facing one of the weaker SL sides.
I also can't see how it helped our preparations for the Huddersfield match given that only about 5 of those who played yesterday will face Huddersfield.
Personally I feel more than a little short-changed having gone all the way to Wakefield and paid £15 to watch our U 19's get a stuffing.
I also feel that Ellis's testimonial match deserved more respect, as did Whiting's last year.
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| Quote ="ccs"As long as at the end of the season we are in the top 2/3 then we're safe from any relegation threat.
And yes, in the top 2 or 3 would be even better.'"
We've a better chance of been in the top 2/3 than yourselves this year. If Pryce and Sneed (both players have well truly been found out) are your first choice 6/7 your going to struggle for creativity. Whats the best price for you to finish bottom?
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| He should have played 90% of the team that is going to play against Hudds and then added 2 or 3 kids such as BTW, Lancaster and Logan for instance. Not thrown all the kids in together to get mullered by Wakey and knock their confidence.
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| Quote ="deeHell"Quote ="ccs"As long as at the end of the season we are in the top 2/3 then we're safe from any relegation threat.
And yes, in the top 2 or 3 would be even better.'"
We've a better chance of been in the top 2/3 than yourselves this year. If Pryce and Sneed (both players have well truly been found out) are your first choice 6/7 your going to struggle for creativity. Whats the best price for you to finish bottom?'"
Based on what? A friendly that saw 10 of our first 13 missing or the fact in the history of SL, you have regulary failed to finished above us?
How have Pryce and Sneyd (not Sneed) been found out, have you seen them both play for Hull, both players have been successful in top 8 sides, can the same be said for Miller and Smith?
I'd worry about your own team then ours and you might stop making silly posts were you will no doubt end up looking stupid at the end of the year.
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| Quote ="deeHell"We've a better chance of been in the top 2/3 than yourselves this year. If Pryce and Sneed (both players have well truly been found out) are your first choice 6/7 your going to struggle for creativity. Whats the best price for you to finish bottom?'"
 like [ifuc[/ik you have. Just explain how Pryce and Sneyd have been found out exactly? Pryce was one of the leading try assists all season even until he was dropped due to signing for us, and Sneyd had a fantastic season even though he dropped off towards the end of the season but still wasn't poor. You come across as knowing feck all.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"One poster has even said Hudds will have played 4 games less(which inaccurate anyway), it isn't how many games, it's the quality and so far aside from a training session againt York and one good half against rovers the first 17 haven't had enough pre-season IMO.'" If it was my post you're referring to, I said we have played 4 times as many pre-season games as Huddersfield, which as far as I can tell is accurate.
Or I could have said we've played 160m against SL opposition and 160m again championship sides, compared with Huddersfield's 80m against a championship side.
Totally irrelevant, I agree, but If the positions were reversed I can imagine the outcry for being undercooked.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"icon_lol.gif like [ifuc[/ik you have. Just explain how Pryce and Sneyd have been found out exactly? Pryce was one of the leading try assists all season even until he was dropped due to signing for us, and Sneyd had a fantastic season even though he dropped off towards the end of the season but still wasn't poor. You come across as knowing feck all.'"
I'll be happy to revisit this point after ten games of the season. Sneyd is a player that had a decent run of form nothing more, and Hull jumped in with the cash. A world of difference between form and actual ability. Pryce while still a useful player hasn't been half as effective has what he was upto a few years ago. I don't know what wages but ill be surprised if you get value for money. Miller has had one bad season under a terrible coach at Hull, Smith in a Wakefield shirt has been one of the most consistent performers in the Super League. Don't forget we have Sammut as back up (or maybe first choice). I would say we edged you in the hooking department as well. The difference in performance expectation are wildly of mark, hopefully that will filter through to the betting markets and I can make a killing.
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| Quote ="ccs"If it was my post you're referring to, I said we have played 4 times as many pre-season games as Huddersfield, which as far as I can tell is accurate.
Or I could have said we've played 160m against SL opposition and 160m again championship sides, compared with Huddersfield's 80m against a championship side.
Totally irrelevant, I agree, but If the positions were reversed I can imagine the outcry for being undercooked.'"
No we haven't..4times is just nonsense..the starting 17 will at best have played 2 full games. you forget that the Donny game was the youth side, the majority of the side against York played a half against Rovers and a couple of players will have played yesterday. The vast majority of the starting 17 have just about 2 games..that isn't 4 games or 4 times..IMO our prep has being e..same as last season
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| Quote ="ccs"As long as at the end of the season we are in the top 2/3 then we're safe from any relegation threat.
And yes, in the top 2 or 3 would be even better.'"
Oh for education eh!, this time yesterday you would not have been able to make this post without making a pratt of yourself 
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| It shows how far we've dropped off when fans are talking about avoiding relegation instead of pushing closer to top 4 previous to 2014..pretty sad
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"It shows how far we've dropped off when fans are talking about avoiding relegation instead of pushing closer to top 4 previous to 2014..pretty sad'"
It was an opportunity to use "2/3" again, which chissitt reacted to in his usual abusive way.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"No we haven't..4times is just nonsense..the starting 17 will at best have played 2 full games. you forget that the Donny game was the youth side, the majority of the side against York played a half against Rovers and a couple of players will have played yesterday. The vast majority of the starting 17 have just about 2 games..that isn't 4 games or 4 times..IMO our prep has being poop..same as last season'"
What was it Jake said about Wakefield fans??
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| I was a little unhappy yesterday but after reading Radfords report today about trying to give some of the younger lads a chance to impress but sadly not taking it I understand the team selection more now. It gives both the club and the players a chance to see where theyre at and some of the younger ones who might be thinking theyre ready will now know they need to get their heads down and work a lot harder if theyre gonna be pushing for a first team place should injury arise. It would of been nice for the club to be a bit more open with the fans about this though rather than a load going across to wakey only to met with an almost B team. Only one I don't get is why did he play Sneyd when the risk of injury is there
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno" Only one I don't get is why did he play Sneyd when the risk of injury is there'" .
All I can think of is, with Pryce missing (injured?), he wanted one key pivot in the team so that the fringe players could get an opportunity
to get used to his style of play and kicking game.
Or maybe Sneyd himself felt he wanted more game time?
All a load of rubbish, I know.
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| I think most people agree, yesterdays friendly was a waste of time for everyone! Yes give fringe players a chance to make an impression, but not with 15 other so called fringe players, It's ridiculous, and as just demoralised most Hull fans, just when we where starting to feel a little optimistic! I just don't get it, I guess we'll find out on the 8th what Radford and this team are all about. I was looking forward to it, not to sure now
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"I think most people agree, yesterdays friendly was a waste of time for everyone! Yes give fringe players a chance to make an impression, but not with 15 other so called fringe players, It's ridiculous, and as just demoralised most Hull fans, just when we where starting to feel a little optimistic! I just don't get it, I guess we'll find out on the 8th what Radford and this team are all about. I was looking forward to it, not to sure now'"
With all due respect. Why do you feel demoralised by a friendly?
Most first teamers have had around a game and a half .
Radford knows his team. Yesterday was a chance to try some fringe players who needed to impress.
I'm glad no risks were taken . Hull FC fans need to get a grip, we really are becoming a moaning , fickle bunch ! Why knee jerk over a glorified training session?
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| I struggle to see any benefit to playing as many fringe players as you did, surely the final friendly is the time to pick your strongest team and play at match tempo for long periods so you are fully prepared come round 1. 40/50 mins against us is not ideal prep for a league season, lets face it York was a training session.
I can see the no injuries point, but I'd hazard an injury is as likely to happen in training when not at full intensity and knocks occur.
I'm obviously no expert, but for me it was an opportunity for you guys to build some momentum into hudds game, and play with some intensity and combinations in a game situation close to big kick off.
Might not always work, look at us yesterday full team near enough and a dreadful performance, thing is we probably still took a lot from the game to work on (especially in defence) so in a warped way not a wasted journey. I just don't see what Radford knows different about his first 17 after that, with only a small sample size to go with for the first day.
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| Quote ="mean_machine"I struggle to see any benefit to playing as many fringe players as you did.
Might not always work, look at us yesterday full team near enough and a dreadful performance.'"
It's a lottery, as you have clearly indicated.
People seem to think that coaching a RL team is an exact science, but it's not.
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| Can anyone who went tell me how the front row of Bowden Green and Cunningham went please? In terms of first team squad it's the performance of these three that interests me the most. Cheers.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"I was a little unhappy yesterday but after reading Radfords report today about trying to give some of the younger lads a chance to impress but sadly not taking it I understand the team selection more now. It gives both the club and the players a chance to see where theyre at and some of the younger ones who might be thinking theyre ready will now know they need to get their heads down and work a lot harder if theyre gonna be pushing for a first team place should injury arise. It would of been nice for the club to be a bit more open with the fans about this though rather than a load going across to wakey only to met with an almost B team. Only one I don't get is why did he play Sneyd when the risk of injury is there'"
Made me think Radford is more of a clown than ever. You want to find out if youngsters are good enough you have to play them with some of the best players, not just lump them all together and say ah well they are not good enough. It's complete none sense from the off. The donny and York games should have been mixed sides IMO
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Can anyone who went tell me how the front row of Bowden Green and Cunningham went please? In terms of first team squad it's the performance of these three that interests me the most. Cheers.'"
Not that well. The starting six pack if fit pick themselves. Bench is more challenging. Of the rest Thompson has played himself in, definitely for me. Whiting looked OK, but probably will get a few games at Donny first. Neither Bowden nor Green are creating enough impact IMO, Feka does but defence not brilliant, thought he'd get more minutes yesterday tbh. Personally I'd play Houghton for 80 and have Thompson, Feka, Bowden and Rankin on the bench. Not sure where Hadley is in the pecking order. BTW impressed me at the Keepmoat. Hmm..
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Made me think Radford is more of a clown than ever. You want to find out if youngsters are good enough you have to play them with some of the best players, not just lump them all together and say ah well they are not good enough. It's complete none sense from the off. The donny and York games should have been mixed sides IMO'"
I sort of agree and wanted to see the full side play yesterday but the seasons a marathon and not a sprint and we don't want to peak too early if we can even peak at all lol.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Made me think Radford is more of a clown than ever. You want to find out if youngsters are good enough you have to play them with some of the best players, not just lump them all together and say ah well they are not good enough. It's complete none sense from the off. The donny and York games should have been mixed sides IMO'"
Trouble is, is .....
Curtis Naughton, Tom Lineham, Joe Arundel, Jack Logan, Callum Lancaster, Jordan Abdull, Marc Sneyd, Josh Bowden, James Cunningham, Chris Green, Gareth Ellis, Dean Hadley, Jordan Thompson
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And 3 first teamers as subs if you include Whiting.
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