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Quote hull smallears="hull smallears"13 from what I could see, but just a cursory look.
I am basing my opinion and info from 2 cas season ticket holders. I hope he is / becomes a world beater. For me I agree with Jake though, and looks like an average signing.'"
It's 24 this season:
www.superleague.co.uk/matchday/player/3254
Stats look OK but nothing spectacular. Joint 3rd highest try scorer with 8 (2 more than Yeaman), busts a decent number of tackles but also misses too many. Going by those numbers he looks like a decent squad player but nothing more than that. His main advantages are youth and utility.
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Quote hull smallears="hull smallears"13 from what I could see, but just a cursory look.
I am basing my opinion and info from 2 cas season ticket holders. I hope he is / becomes a world beater. For me I agree with Jake though, and looks like an average signing.'"
It's 24 this season:
www.superleague.co.uk/matchday/player/3254
Stats look OK but nothing spectacular. Joint 3rd highest try scorer with 8 (2 more than Yeaman), busts a decent number of tackles but also misses too many. Going by those numbers he looks like a decent squad player but nothing more than that. His main advantages are youth and utility.
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"I find it interesting that people are saying that no one should have a negative view of the signing because they haven't seen him play for Hull yet. Does this mean that we are only able to form an opinion of the abilities of a player if he plays for our club?'"
No it doesn't. But as others have said its no good judging players until they wear our shirt and play in our team. I'm sure you, like the rest of us, weren't over the moon when we signed Aspinwall and Goldie and I think its generally agreed that they turned out to be good additions. Lets hope that our new signings are the same.
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| Quote Hessle Roader="Hessle Roader"Yes, it does seem to be in some peoples psyche to criticise, whatever the situation. To me, you either support the club and what they're trying to achieve, or you don't. In which case you'd be better off elsewhere.'"
in my opinion, I can formulate an opinion based on what I have seen and what I have known. Unlike some of the blind idiots we have amongst our fanbase, I will actually be there, supporting the fella home and away.
However, IMO him, Arundel, Westerman, Con Mika (if true) Crookes, Watts, Johnson, Galea,
All not good enough. Hope I am wrong.
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| I think this signing could turn out ok , I just think we need 1 maybe 2 top quality signings to go with this and people wouldn't be moaning . We can't sign top names all the time , not many sl teams do now . Just think at times we need more then players for the future all the time . But I guess if the quality or the top players aren't there , were stuck with these type of signings .
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"I find it interesting that people are saying that no one should have a negative view of the signing because they haven't seen him play for Hull yet. Does this mean that we are only able to form an opinion of the abilities of a player if he plays for our club?'"
I think so, players react differently to coaches and different gameplans. How many players have you seen be dire at one club then be great at the next and vice versa. Its for me all about finding a players strength, look at Cas under Millward then Powell.
McGoldrick was good for is but dire everywhere else. He hasn't played with our squad so it could suit him and it may not.
Azza was almost finished a few years back but found a new lease of life under different coaches, you never know how a player will be till you actually see it in practise. I thought Manu would be devasting at saints but doesn't look the same player we had.
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| Quote hull smallears="hull smallears"in my opinion, I can formulate an opinion based on what I have seen and what I have known. Unlike some of the blind idiots we have amongst our fanbase, I will actually be there, supporting the fella home and away.
However, IMO him, Arundel, Westerman, Con Mika (if true) Crookes, Watts, Johnson, Galea,
All not good enough. Hope I am wrong.'"
Arundel and Westerman are good enough IMO. Watts has the ability but question mark over application. Galea is gone. Mika would be a poor signing. Johnson has a great heart but is too small. Crookes, if he stays fit, [icould[/i be good enough. Jury's out IMO.
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| Quote Hessle Roader="Hessle Roader"No it doesn't. But as others have said its no good judging players until they wear our shirt and play in our team. I'm sure you, like the rest of us, weren't over the moon when we signed Aspinwall and Goldie and I think its generally agreed that they turned out to be good additions. Lets hope that our new signings are the same.'"
Wasn't unhappy about Aspinwall as a player, it was more his off the field activities.
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| Quote pmarrow="pmarrow"I think so, players react differently to coaches and different gameplans. How many players have you seen be dire at one club then be great at the next and vice versa. Its for me all about finding a players strength, look at Cas under Millward then Powell.'"
I have never seen a player be 'dire' at one club and then 'great' at another. It's true that players will respond differently to different clubs and coaches, but not to the extent that a 'dire' player becomes 'great' or vice versa. It is perfectly possible to form a judgement based on having seen a player play for a club other than your own.
Quote pmarrowMcGoldrick was good for is but dire everywhere else. '"
No. He was better than many thought he would be, but was still only a run of the mill utility player. It says much about our half back predicament over the last few years that he was so well thought of.
Quote pmarrowHe hasn't played with our squad so it could suit him and it may not.'"
It may or it may not, but it won't alter his inherent ability.
Quote pmarrowAzza was almost finished a few years back but found a new lease of life under different coaches, you never know how a player will be till you actually see it in practise. I thought Manu would be devasting at saints but doesn't look the same player we had.'"
He's a year older. I reckon Adrian Morley might be a bit less impressive next year, too.
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| Quote hull smallears="hull smallears"in my opinion, I can formulate an opinion based on what I have seen and what I have known. Unlike some of the blind idiots we have amongst our fanbase, I will actually be there, supporting the fella home and away.
However, IMO him, Arundel, Westerman, Con Mika (if true) Crookes, Watts, Johnson, Galea,
All not good enough. Hope I am wrong.'"
Who would you have signed instead of those players?
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| Quote pmarrow="pmarrow"I think so, players react differently to coaches and different gameplans. How many players have you seen be dire at one club then be great at the next and vice versa. Its for me all about finding a players strength, look at Cas under Millward then Powell.
McGoldrick was good for is but dire everywhere else. He hasn't played with our squad so it could suit him and it may not.
Azza was almost finished a few years back but found a new lease of life under different coaches, you never know how a player will be till you actually see it in practise. I thought Manu would be devasting at saints but doesn't look the same player we had.'"
Perfect example - Adam Blair. & Sean Long.
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| Quote hull smallears="hull smallears"in my opinion, I can formulate an opinion based on what I have seen and what I have known. Unlike some of the blind idiots we have amongst our fanbase, I will actually be there, supporting the fella home and away.
However, IMO him, Arundel, Westerman, Con Mika (if true) Crookes, Watts, Johnson, Galea,
All not good enough. Hope I am wrong.'"
And do you not think the blind idiots (your words, not mine) turn up week after week and make their own judgements. I never miss a match if I can and resent anyone calling me names because my opinion doesn't agree with theirs.
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| Quote pmarrow="pmarrow"You only have to read threads like this to realize why our top talent always move on and why top players won't sign for us.
Not saying you have to be happy with the signing, but give him chance he hasn't even had a training session. The kid must now be wondering why he wanted to sign for a club like this in the first place.
Pathetic support.'"
What a crock of shiit. Players sign for the clubs who offer them most and a few people criticising them on an online message board means nothing
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