Interestingly it seems that he hasn't yet got his visa sorted. Apparently the deal is dependent on this happening and if it doesn't then he won't be joining Salford.

Quote: hull smallears "13 from what I could see, but just a cursory look. I am basing my opinion and info from 2 cas season ticket holders. I hope he is / becomes a world beater. For me I agree with Jake though, and looks like an average signing.'" It's 24 this season: www.superleague.co.uk/matchday/player/3254 Stats look OK but nothing spectacular. Joint 3rd highest try scorer with 8 (2 more than Yeaman), busts a decent number of tackles but also misses too many. Going by those numbers he looks like a decent squad player but nothing more than that. His main advantages are youth and utility.

Quote: hull smallears "13 from what I could see, but just a cursory look. I am basing my opinion and info from 2 cas season ticket holders. I hope he is / becomes a world beater. For me I agree with Jake though, and looks like an average signing.'" It's 24 this season: www.superleague.co.uk/matchday/player/3254 Stats look OK but nothing spectacular. Joint 3rd highest try scorer with 8 (2 more than Yeaman), busts a decent number of tackles but also misses too many. Going by those numbers he looks like a decent squad player but nothing more than that. His main advantages are youth and utility.

No it doesn't. But as others have said its no good judging players until they wear our shirt and play in our team. I'm sure you, like the rest of us, weren't over the moon when we signed Aspinwall and Goldie and I think its generally agreed that they turned out to be good additions. Lets hope that our new signings are the same.

in my opinion, I can formulate an opinion based on what I have seen and what I have known. Unlike some of the blind idiots we have amongst our fanbase, I will actually be there, supporting the fella home and away.

However, IMO him, Arundel, Westerman, Con Mika (if true) Crookes, Watts, Johnson, Galea,

All not good enough. Hope I am wrong.

I think this signing could turn out ok , I just think we need 1 maybe 2 top quality signings to go with this and people wouldn't be moaning . We can't sign top names all the time , not many sl teams do now . Just think at times we need more then players for the future all the time . But I guess if the quality or the top players aren't there , were stuck with these type of signings .

I think so, players react differently to coaches and different gameplans. How many players have you seen be dire at one club then be great at the next and vice versa. Its for me all about finding a players strength, look at Cas under Millward then Powell.

McGoldrick was good for is but dire everywhere else. He hasn't played with our squad so it could suit him and it may not.

Azza was almost finished a few years back but found a new lease of life under different coaches, you never know how a player will be till you actually see it in practise. I thought Manu would be devasting at saints but doesn't look the same player we had.

Arundel and Westerman are good enough IMO. Watts has the ability but question mark over application. Galea is gone. Mika would be a poor signing. Johnson has a great heart but is too small. Crookes, if he stays fit, [icould[/i be good enough. Jury's out IMO.

Wasn't unhappy about Aspinwall as a player, it was more his off the field activities.

I have never seen a player be 'dire' at one club and then 'great' at another. It's true that players will respond differently to different clubs and coaches, but not to the extent that a 'dire' player becomes 'great' or vice versa. It is perfectly possible to form a judgement based on having seen a player play for a club other than your own.



No. He was better than many thought he would be, but was still only a run of the mill utility player. It says much about our half back predicament over the last few years that he was so well thought of.



It may or it may not, but it won't alter his inherent ability.



He's a year older. I reckon Adrian Morley might be a bit less impressive next year, too.

Who would you have signed instead of those players?

Perfect example - Adam Blair. & Sean Long.

And do you not think the blind idiots (your words, not mine) turn up week after week and make their own judgements. I never miss a match if I can and resent anyone calling me names because my opinion doesn't agree with theirs.

What a crock of shiit. Players sign for the clubs who offer them most and a few people criticising them on an online message board means nothing

What about the magical powers that transform these average players once the don our shirts?

I have it on good authority that Sam Tomkins was just about to sign a 5 year deal with us until someone showed him one of your 'Agar Out' threads. So terrified was he of becoming the subject of a dustbin avatar that he legged it back to Wigan without further consideration.