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| It's like the Council charging it's tennants extra rent for hanging family pictures on the walls of their home, I thought the Allams were supposed to be generous ! I don't think so !!
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Don't forget the Anglo-American cup when they beat the mighty Tampa Bay Rowdies over 2 legs!!'"
![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif) I remember that nonsense! ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="Hullandproud"City's memorabilia could be put on one photo. Wembley 2008. They must be really scraping the barrel with the rest'"
Dont forget the Man Utd game. 55k there
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| Quote ="mikey471"icon_lol.gif I remember that nonsense!
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Me to
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| will the interview be on bbc radio humberside "listen again"
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Quote ="The Milky Bar Kid"will the interview be on bbc radio humberside "listen again"'"
Yep - here
t.co/IayB3siA
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Quote ="The Milky Bar Kid"will the interview be on bbc radio humberside "listen again"'"
Yep - here
t.co/IayB3siA
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Quote ="number 6"do you think he was instructed what to say?
i didnt realise hull city went to portugal! was it in the hdm or did they miss it too?'"
Went in Janaury but no mention in HDM report that it was because of a refusal to train on the KC pitch
www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... z2KX1o3Kke
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Quote ="number 6"do you think he was instructed what to say?
i didnt realise hull city went to portugal! was it in the hdm or did they miss it too?'"
Went in Janaury but no mention in HDM report that it was because of a refusal to train on the KC pitch
www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... z2KX1o3Kke
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| Unfortunately for him, the organ grinder wasn't available.
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| So Nick Thompson is trying to have everyone believe that he asked the SMC if , the Allam owned HC could train on the KC pitch and the Allam owned SMC said no. So he had to ask for extra funds or report that to his bosses , the Allams , so that HC could travel to Portugal at short notice instead which was a real pain. I bet the Allams were really unhappy with the decision of the Allam owned SMC because of the extra cost and inconvenience that were caused for the Allam's HC.
What conflict of interest????????????
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| Quote ="ChrisH"So Nick Thompson is trying to have everyone believe that he asked the SMC if , the Allam owned HC could train on the KC pitch and the Allam owned SMC said no. So he had to ask for extra funds or report that to his bosses , the Allams , so that HC could travel to Portugal at short notice instead which was a real pain. I bet the Allams were really unhappy with the decision of the Allam owned SMC because of the extra cost and inconvenience that were caused for the Allam's HC.
What conflict of interest????????????'"
In a nutshell
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| Why did the interviewer not just ask him the blunt question, or point out the blunt point? He asked how much the charge for displaying memorabilia was (which was predictably and understandably not answered), but why didn't they challenge the stupid response that 'the SMC has to make money somehow'? 1. You've just said it's a nominal amount, so they won't make much, and 2. What they make from Hull City is a cost to the same people as are charging it, so they've made nothing. It's literally like taking money out of one pocket and putting it in another in the same pair of jeans. The only people they'll be making money from is Adam Pearson and everyone knows it, so why not just stop dancing around it and tell it like it is?
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| As Mrs B pointed out on the "petty" thread:
Quote ="Mrs Barista"Here's a strange and coincidental thing.
From 2001 to 2010, the SMC posted a cumulative profit of £42k. I think a small dividend is payable from the SMC to the council on this, but am not sure.
In the last 2 years, the SMC has recorded losses of £326k and £409K. Wow.'"
The fact is the SMC managed to tick along quite nicely for ten years. returning a modest, cumulative profit of £42k. Not a fortune but the right side of the balance sheet and enough to give the council a small return on their investment.
Now compare that with losses of £326k and £409k ineach of the last two years. That should be sufficient to trigger a forensic audit of the SMC's books, especially given that one of Allam's arguments for being gifted the KC was that the SMC was making losses. The SMC only started posting substantial losses once it was under Allam's control. Losses of that magnitude are hardly going to be mitigated by charging Hull FC £20k per year for picture space.
The SMC is an asset that is owned by the council tax payers of Hull, the City Council are custodians of that asset and as such, I believe they have a legal duty to ensure that the KC is being properly managed. If losses continue at the rate of the last two years, then there must be serious doubts over the ability of the SMC to adequately maintain the KC stadium.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"The SMC is an asset that is owned by the council tax payers of Hull, the City Council are custodians of that asset and as such, I believe they have a legal duty to ensure that the KC is being properly managed. If losses continue at the rate of the last two years, then there must be serious doubts over the ability of the SMC to adequately maintain the KC stadium.'"
Spot on Coddy.
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| Do the losses in the recent years relate to lost sponsorship of the Arena, and various units around the ground being too expensive for rental - i.e. the previous council unit?
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"Do the losses in the recent years relate to lost sponsorship of the Arena, and various units around the ground being too expensive for rental - i.e. the previous council unit?'"
Remember, the council have moved out, the hockey teams have (apparently) gone, likewise the basketball, the arena has no sponsor, BUT the SMC had £1.2m cash in the bank, didn't pay any dividends (so didn't pay the Council a penny) and probably avoided a shed load of tax......
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| There are some very unhappy councillors in the Guildhall this morning. JW suite with his pictures taken down very embarrassing for the council and the PEOPLE OF HULL'S community Stadium.
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| Quote ="Standee"Remember, the council have moved out, the hockey teams have (apparently) gone, likewise the basketball, the arena has no sponsor, BUT the SMC had £1.2m cash in the bank, didn't pay any dividends (so didn't pay the Council a penny) and probably avoided a shed load of tax......'"
discussions are ongoing so far as I know, but no one's trained or played at the KC since December
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| Quote ="the cal train"discussions are ongoing so far as I know, but no one's trained or played at the KC since December'"
cheers, any information anyone has about how the word Community (with a capital C) is being underminded at the COMMUNITY facility is greatfully received, it's our best angle on this one.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"As Mrs B pointed out on the "petty" thread:
The fact is the SMC managed to tick along quite nicely for ten years. returning a modest, cumulative profit of £42k. Not a fortune but the right side of the balance sheet and enough to give the council a small return on their investment.
Now compare that with losses of £326k and £409k ineach of the last two years. That should be sufficient to trigger a forensic audit of the SMC's books, especially given that one of Allam's arguments for being gifted the KC was that the SMC was making losses. The SMC only started posting substantial losses once it was under Allam's control. Losses of that magnitude are hardly going to be mitigated by charging Hull FC £20k per year for picture space.
The SMC is an asset that is owned by the council tax payers of Hull, the City Council are custodians of that asset and as such, I believe they have a legal duty to ensure that the KC is being properly managed. If losses continue at the rate of the last two years, then there must be serious doubts over the ability of the SMC to adequately maintain the KC stadium.'"
Is there anyway that the council can regain control of the Stadium/ SMC aside from buying out the Allam's? If not, what good would any audit do?
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| Quote ="Goochie"Is there anyway that the council can regain control of the Stadium/ SMC aside from buying out the Allam's? If not, what good would any audit do?'"
If there is evidence of financial mismanagement or any underhand dealings, I would imagine the council would have the option to rip up any agreement.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"If there is evidence of financial mismanagement or any underhand dealings, I would imagine the council would have the option to rip up any agreement.'"
It's all very pathetic this whole situation, as I've said on the City board.
Who'd have thought when the council built us both a stadium that we'd have to rent space for a photo on the bloody wall!
Also, who is on the board of the SMC, does anyone know? I've had a quick look but can't find much at all.
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| Quote ="Goochie"Is there anyway that the council can regain control of the Stadium/ SMC aside from buying out the Allam's? If not, what good would any audit do?'" I came across this "quote" yesterday. I've no idea who said it or if it's valid, but......
Quote The council is bound by the terms of the 50-year lease, which was found to be legally watertight when it looked at the possibility of extricating itself two years ago.'"
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| Quote ="Goochie"It's all very pathetic this whole situation, as I've said on the City board.
Who'd have thought when the council built us both a stadium that we'd have to rent space for a photo on the bloody wall!
Also, who is on the board of the SMC, does anyone know? I've had a quick look but can't find much at all.'"
Assem Allam
Ehab Allam
McGuire (City's former CEO) resigned when he left City. Perhaps John North will be appointed for independence. What with him, I think, being company secretary of Hull KR who owe £1m to, er, the Allams.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Assem Allam
Ehab Allam
McGuire (City's former CEO) resigned when he left City. Perhaps John North will be appointed for independence. What with him, I think, being company secretary of Hull KR who owe £1m to, er, the Allams.'"
I thought you'd know! And I thought that would be who was involved.
The SMC should have been either a joint effort from Hull City, Hull FC and the council, or should have been independent in the first place, then arguments like this at least would have some balance to them.
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Quote ="ccs"I came across this "quote" yesterday. I've no idea who said it or if it's valid, but......
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"The council is bound by the terms of the 50-year lease, which was found to be legally watertight when it looked at the possibility of extricating itself two years ago."
A quote from this article (Published on Friday 27 July 2012)
www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/at- ... -1-4778376
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Quote ="ccs"I came across this "quote" yesterday. I've no idea who said it or if it's valid, but......
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"The council is bound by the terms of the 50-year lease, which was found to be legally watertight when it looked at the possibility of extricating itself two years ago."
A quote from this article (Published on Friday 27 July 2012)
www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/at- ... -1-4778376
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