How did Bobby Tyson Wilson go ?

If nothing else, this weekend has proven what many suspected in that there is a real risk to the SL teams in the middle 8's. The fixtures have been set up to massively favour the 9th and 10th placed SL teams and the 1st and 2nd in the championship (god knows who agreed to that but ridiculous IMO).

If both leagues stayed as they are until the end of the season (which it won't but just wanting to show how the fixtures work) we'd play:

Home

wakefield
les cats
sheffield

Away

leigh
bradford
widnes
halifax


We could easily lose 2 or 3 of those games the way we've been playing which would put us in real peril of relegation.

I'm pretty much resigned to us being in the middle 8's but we must finish 9th or 10th IMO

Load of rubbish today tbh, just glad it only cost me 15 quid

They were pretty limited but looked to have more of a game plan than us. Every try bar 1 was through individual effort, so god knows what that says about our "play book" against second-rate opposition.

Good day out, but the team were e.

Interesting. The score shows we beat them easily but you say we were poor

We said EXACTLY the same re the fixtures been, um, [iengineered[/i as an experimental taster and also that those middle 8 matches are going to be extremely close.

Worried for weeks about the possibility of relegation, today has confirmed this scenario should be taken seriously and we should take evasive action now. We need eighth at least.

Win our next two and we are in a decent position. I reckon we would then have to win 5 of 11 to be safe (ideally 6, but I think 22 points should get you in). You would like to think we will win the two games against Wakefield. That leaves us needing 3 from 9. Should be doable.

Huddersfield game is huge.

It's no surprise though is it? We're a disorganised rabble in attack thanks to our clueless coach. Leigh looked so much better than we do with ball in hand with a squad which is probably paid a 1/4 of what ours is

Our attack is hopeless though. Unless we see a massive improvement we have no chance of the top 8. Other than leeds and maybe saints, no one is showing any form so your 22 point target may actually be higher

We were pretty awful

Massive next 5 SL games ( plus possible Wakey away)

Hudds home
Salford home
Warr away
Saints home
Rovers MM

so only one real away game, must win at least 3/4 of the next 5 to make the top 8.

Our attacking structure must really improve if we are to make the top 8 and have a good cup run.

I agree our attack is hopeless. But at this stage it's too much to say there's no chance.

If we had played Wakefield today as planned and got the result we would have been 8th at worst (possibly 7th had Rovers lost to Salford). That is with everyone playing each other once.

Yes we've played badly, but there are plenty of average teams in this league. If we can grind out some results when we need them there's no reason we can't scrape in.

They also made a lot of ground with ball in hand the same as Widnes did last week and that's a worry.
Our attack though is embarrassing.
No doubt we will have that flyer Yeaman back in the centre next week.

How forlorn and desperate is this last - accurate - sentence. Could anyone believe this would be a realistic post now given where we were 3 years ago? We're supposed to have been through all this after Agar.

Ellis another couple of weeks yet according to himself on Hull fc live

Absolutely, 8th wouldn't be good enough by half, but at least we don't have to worry about survival if we get there.

If we do finish 8th it will be interesting to see what Pearson's reaction to it is. If he hails it as a good season I might have to dig out his "never will 8th be seen as a success while I'm in charge" quote for the fans forum, or at least email it to him.

I just can't believe that Radders didn't rest Pryce, Houghton and Minichiello for starters. They've all played big minutes and after a gruelling Easter they could have done with a rest.
Clearly shows that Radders was worried of a bad result if we weren't near full strength. Perfect time to play some kids.

Think paea has been our outstanding player this season,far and away our best forward in the absence of ellis,thompson was pretty good as well but my goodness we are so boring.Still a win is a win and another lower league team please tomorrow night. COYH

if we had rested pryce we could easily have lost! even moving sa to 6 didnt help!

rankin was too predictable, high kick to the winger everytime who made metres on each return

I wasn't at the game but I can't see that Pryce would have made much difference regardless of how well he played. Our only tactic is to batter the opposition into submission. We may aswell have played another prop at 6.

pryce, along with paea, was mainly the reason we were out of sight first half

second half was dire, no direction at all!

Chuck in Thompson and I fully agree. Whatever the rights and wrongs of it, given it looked rocky at 12-22 we may well have been out in this round had key players been rested IMO.

It seemed that Pryce was our main attacking threat and his exit from the pitch coincided with our finding it even more difficult than normal to score points.

The aim today was avoid the banana skin and get into the next round,they did that at a canter, always were in control and fans still moan,if it had been 80-0 the radford out brigade would still find something wrong ,Castleford got spanked by Widnes today a team who we also beat and were always in control and they have the best coach in SL ...so many tell us. Along with Warry,Giants,Widnes and Catalans they have lost the same amount of games we have. Take away the top three and the rest are all in the mix.

We are indeed in the mix, I have argued our case already in this thread. If we managed to get our attack firing then we could even push towards the top 4, never mind the 8, the league is that close.

The fact is that we are terrible with ball in hand, and until we sort that out we aren't going to be able to move forward. Unfortunately we seem incapable of improving. We beat a hugely inexperienced Saints team, ground it out against Widnes thanks to two interceptions, and were hugely uninspiring today by all accounts. We might have won three on the spin, but I've seen absolutely nothing to suggest we are improving. Radford simply isn't the man for the job.