I know you're fond of this argument but it's utterly specious IMO. You can use the same criteria to argue against funding anything you don't personally benefit from via taxation. For instance, I can't recall the last time I used a library, or public swimming pool, or sports centre. I haven't had need of the fire brigade, I've never used an ambulance or had an operation - the list goes on. I don't begrudge my taxes being used to pay for these facilities though. Even the USA doesn't base your rate of tax on what you actually use.

Oh - and in the USA you get reduced fees if you attend a University in your home state. Because of the contribution your family have already made through taxation and you presumed future contribution. Oddly we seem to have ignored this factor in the UK.

Spot on.

I'm must admit, I'm a bit confused as to what area belongs to what ward - is there a map some place showing this?

Why do I now have a vision of you on the old This Morning weather map with a saw!!!

rlhttps://web5.hullcc.gov.uk/akshull/users/public/admin/main.pl?op

Try that

Sorry its not bang upto date and its showing all the displaced Lib Dems , its the cuts

Many thanks - will take a look.

Utter rubbish. It might well be about the [iupper[/i classes wanting the Universities back, but your average 'middle class' family is getting hammered - and not just by student fees.

spot on!!

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The [iruling classes [/iwant there uni's back is maybe a better statement on reflection, but you know who I meant.

Listen i dont pretend to know anything about politics at all but what is clear for all to see if they look is that all the labour party will do now in their mass of seats is run the system down so badly that the local folk forget its a local labour government and they will simply blame the coalition thus feathering their own beds for the next general election ..
makes perfect sense , the want to be in politics should ban a person from ever being in it!!

If you meant ruling class, why say middle class?

And if Labour hadn't introduced fees in the first place this bunch of chancers wouldn't have had the opportunity to increase them. A plague on all their houses.

You should've stopped there



See what I mean?

Expro has a point, this scenario has been widely discussed on political programs,

Labour have everything to gain by running councils poorly

My experience of local councillors is that they don't need any extra encouragement to do that.

Please don't make the same mistake as you are accusing the electorate of: conflating national and local politics