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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Does beg the question as to what kind of business makes their marketing manager CEO?'"
Think he might have been Marketing Director. Not sure.
IIRC it was something of a surprise at the time. Lends weight to the view that he basically looked after marketing/admin and all the major decisions were made over his head.
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| All of this defence for rule gives me a sense of de ja vu when people were defending first agar and then the club owners pre pearson's take over
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"All of this defence for rule gives me a sense of de ja vu when people were defending first agar and then the club owners pre pearson's take over'"
I don't think there is a defence of Rule, just an acceptance that AP is nobody's fool, and if he feels Rule is the right person for the job then we see no reason to doubt him thus far.
I don't like JR, he's a self-important Hymers type with an ego to match his daft hair style, but I don't think he's doing a bad job at FC.
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| Quote ="Standee"I don't think there is a defence of Rule, just an acceptance that AP is nobody's fool, and if he feels Rule is the right person for the job then we see no reason to doubt him thus far.
I don't like JR, he's a self-important Hymers type with an ego to match his daft hair style, but I don't think he's doing a bad job at FC.'"
There is plenty of defence for rule on this thread
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| Quote ="Ian P"Bloody marvelous, AP is like a breath of fresh air after all the spin and crap we have had in recent years.
JR is next on the leaving party list as I reckon we need a complete sweep of the club to remove any traces of the last administration. The whole club has to be purged of mediocrity, the milk cow mentality and become more customer ( fan ) focused
For year many of attempted to point out what the old mob where doing , milking us dry and for years we where shouted down. Disloyal, unfaithful and un grateful to those who kept the club alive, true they did and now it would appear that debt we have repaid many times over.
I am filled with releif when I see the new owner coming out with these sort of statements, after years of under funding and being sold short we may at long last be on the verge of a golden future.
One I hope we can all share and enjoy a brillaint secure future together'"
Seems AP has got one hell of a big broom and this is a now a new chapter in our history.After reading that statment of intent,i for one cannot wait for it all to begin on the pitch.It feels great to be a Hull fan and be back hopefully where we belong and that's at the top.All Hail King AP. 
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Judging by pearson's statement then I'd have said that the club has performed poorly in pretty much every area but profitability, which it hasn't done that well in considering the chronic underinvestment. Seems the reason we've been posting profits is because we've been penny pinching everywhere to the detriment of the club as a whole. If you think that's some kind of vindication of rule's capabilities then you have a different view on things than me'"
Exactly the point i was trying to make, The CE is responsible for all areas of a business and it is quite clear we have failed in many areas due to penny pinching and lack of investment. Saying we have posted a profit so JR is doing a good job is far too simplistic.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"Exactly the point i was trying to make, The CE is responsible for all areas of a business and it is quite clear we have failed in many areas due to penny pinching and lack of investment. Saying we have posted a profit so JR is doing a good job is far too simplistic.'"
You don't understand. rule has only been involved in things that have been good (of which it seems there are precious few). Everything else was kath's fault
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"There is plenty of defence for rule on this thread'"
You know the crack with Jimbob.
Kath had him for this,
Adam will be putting him to good use,

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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"You don't understand. rule has only been involved in things that have been good (of which it seems there are precious few). Everything else was kath's fault'"
People like to fence sit until something happens then they can say i told you so, when JR gets his marching orders everyone will be on here listing his short comings.
The truth is as CE he has presided over a slow and steady decline on the field, poor recruitment, falling gates and a total demoralisation of the fans. The only positive he can claim is posting small profits and lining KH's pockets.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"People like to fence sit until something happens then they can say i told you so, when JR gets his marching orders everyone will be on here listing his short comings.
The truth is as CE he has presided over a slow and steady decline on the field, poor recruitment, falling gates and a total demoralisation of the fans. The only positive he can claim is posting small profits and lining KH's pockets.'"
Recruitment has not been poor, certainly not for the past two years. The problem was the coach's inability to get the best out of the players.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"People like to fence sit until something happens then they can say i told you so, when JR gets his marching orders everyone will be on here listing his short comings.
The truth is as CE he has presided over a slow and steady decline on the field, poor recruitment, falling gates and a total demoralisation of the fans. The only positive he can claim is posting small profits and lining KH's pockets.'"
FFS, what is it with you and JR.
If JR goes it will because AP has decided someone else can do better.
Poor recruitment, are you for real?
Fubar caused the demise of FC and the fans morale.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"There is plenty of defence for rule on this thread'"
I'm not defending him either, just suggesting the possibility that he may not have done anything that requires defending. It's entirely plausible that the shareholders were calling all the shots, and he was simply implementing their plans. Of course, you're right that he could have walked away, but would you walk away from a well paid job if you couldn't find anything equivalent?
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| Quote ="Rock God X"I'm not defending him either, just suggesting the possibility that he may not have done anything that requires defending. It's entirely plausible that the shareholders were calling all the shots, and he was simply implementing their plans. Of course, you're right that he could have walked away, but would you walk away from a well paid job if you couldn't find anything equivalent?'"
which is how most people feel, it's easy to be self-righteous behind a keyboard.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"Exactly the point i was trying to make, The CE is responsible for all areas of a business and it is quite clear we have failed in many areas due to penny pinching and lack of investment.'"
Penny pinching and lack of investment comes from the owners, not club employees.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"
The truth is as CE he has presided over a slow and steady decline on the field, poor recruitment, falling gates and a total demoralisation of the fans. '"
The truth is you don't know what the truth is.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"The truth is you don't know what the truth is.'"
Please explain to me what part of that statement is un-true,?
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| Quote ="Standee"which is how most people feel, it's easy to be self-righteous behind a keyboard.'"
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| Impressive statement from AP. How refreshing it is to have a Chairman with his eyes on Hull FC, instead of gazing up the M62!
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"That could all be true but I know if I were put in that situation then my integrity would see me walk away'"
Wasn't he supposedly looking for a job to enable him to do so prior to the takeover?
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| It's certainly time for the supporter base to unite behind the club now. I've not stopped going but know plenty that have and I don't knock them for it.
With an ambitious new owner and a stronger squad together with reduced prices hopefully the missing supporters will be back and we'll see a period of success.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"Please explain to me what part of that statement is un-true,?'"
Looking from the outside in,would you agree that JR has done alot of good things for the club and a few not so good things?.Imo i think he has done a very good job of the day to day running of the club and has kept it afloat.That tells me he has been doing his job properly.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"People like to fence sit until something happens then they can say i told you so, when JR gets his marching orders everyone will be on here listing his short comings.'"
Or, alternatively, some people accept that we don't have all the facts and would rather not jump to judgement.
BTW - nobody is saying that Rule doesn't have shortcomings. Just not necessarily as many as you and others think he has.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"Please explain to me what part of that statement is un-true,?'"
Presided.
Also the recruitment part. Agar would have targeted players he wanted to sign and the BoD would have told him which he could have. Rule may have done a chunk of the negotiating but I seriously doubt that he had any influence over who we signed.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Presided.
Also the recruitment part. Agar would have targeted players he wanted to sign and the BoD would have told him which he could have. Rule may have done a chunk of the negotiating [ubut I seriously doubt that he had any influence over who we signed[/u.'"
Or what they were paid
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| Quote ="Kosh"Or, alternatively, some people accept that we don't have all the facts and would rather not jump to judgement.
BTW - nobody is saying that Rule doesn't have shortcomings. Just not necessarily as many as you and others think he has.'"
Spot On.
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