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As a Rovers fan, I also found some of Clarkes comments bizzare.
Embarrassed to loan players??? It's unfortunate that for a lot of teams its a neccasary evil. My favorite was the Willie Manu was only from Cas one. Did make me laugh. What does it matter where you sign a player from, its how he performs that counts, I wonder what Cas fans thought about it lol.
It has been quite amusing reading this whole thread and the Millwall chants of 'no one likes us but we don't care' lol.

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Quote: Hull White Star "

As for the "why bother about Manu he came from Cas" comment was he
i know how bizarre was that?? does that mean anyone who comes from Cas are crappp???????
Clarke was a great player but as a pundit really does get bogged down in utter tripe facts and figures that no one else gives a toss about but then on ocassion does show his true colours like he did in that one Manu sentence!!! and the statememnt about the wigan youngster.

You know i guess he is just another wigan fan who done good and as such is biggotted which is ok by me in reality because with the tweedle dee and tweedle dum sky sports duo of stevo and hemmings he provides light relief..

think about it
Clarke.. a frustrated ex player trying to look cool but clearly anti hull fc and always has been
Stevo.. lived his life off the back of a world cup winners medal and spouts about the biff all time yet was one of the worst offenders when a player....
hemmings.. used to be the window cleaner at red hall
the shouting idiot... another frustrated ex player who cant do a report without nearly orgasming due to shouting so much.

all in all the aussie press got it right when they called it , commentary by monty python

what ever they say, we thumped Leeds and neither the sky team, red hall or GH can change that...........

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I don't think he was saying Cas are crap, he was trying to yet again have a dig that we didn't develop Manu we took him from Cas and therefore we shouldn't be upset when he leaves us. Either way it was a stupid comment.

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Quote: Chris28 "To be fair Eddie did pull him up on the "embarrassing" bit, putting the blame, indirectly, on the underinvestment in youth before Pearson.

I look forward to the next time Wigan have an injury crisis and have no suitable kids to play. Presumably Phil will encourage them to play with 15 or 16 to avoid the embarrassment he clearly feels is linked to loan players'"

To be fair to Clarke, he had a pop at Wigan the night before for playing Gelling on the wing and not a youngster.

I don't believe they're biased, and certainly don't believe they hate Hull (only a paranoid person with an inferiority complex would keep bringing that up).
I just think they're stupid and are trying to be controversial. The Willie Manu comment even had Eddie scratching his head, that's how stupid it was!

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Quote: Bet Lynch "They are muppets, however although we did suffer a lot of injuries which clearly had a detrimental impact it is all about a squad at this level. A lot of teams suffer injuries the difference is the top clubs have depth in their squads, hopefully AP, Bomber and Gentle will go some way to rectifying this for the future.'"


I don't know of any club with such depth that you could take 9 players out of their best 17, play them against two top four teams in consecutive weeks, and expect them to do a great deal better than we did.

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think this bias towards certain teams has gone on for ages.....unless a team outside the fab four wins it, it will continue, what you need is an nrl type of thing happeneing, ie: a team getting the wooden spoon one year then winning the comp the next, unfortunatly for SL..i cant see that ever happening as the entire game is set up so the big teams win...shocking really...

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Quote: Uppo58 "I read on a here after the Leeds game that one of the muppets was still banging on about "we still haven't played anyone" when he realised the game was won.
When if he'd engaged brain he'd have realised that with the exception of Catalans, WE HAVE !!

Would have been beautiful if someone on the panel not on a anti Hull agenda could have brought that to his attention.'"


I must admit, I am glad we've now reached the point where that can't keep being dragged out, it was getting tiresome. As you say, we've now played everyone barring Catalan, and even with the games in hand played for all clubs we'd be a minimum of 5th.

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Quote: edinburgh yorkie "watched the recording of the game when i got home.clarky and the other 2 muppets harping on about the 56 points we let in,but no mention of the missing 7 or 8 first choice players missing.then clarky comes out with "hull should be embarrased to have to borrow a fullback"don`t other teams borrow players when the are hit with injuries.?always new he had one of pooles of wigan rubbish pies for a brain.'"


He is right, we should be embarrased.

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Quote: carl_spackler "I must admit, I am glad we've now reached the point where that can't keep being dragged out, it was getting tiresome. As you say, we've now played everyone barring Catalan, and even with the games in hand played for all clubs we'd be a minimum of 5th.'"

Or a point behind Wigan if we had already played Cats and won there.It really does annoy and amaze me when they all keep harping on that we have not played anyone, but with a bit of homework the muppets would of noticed that we have already beaten both of last seasons grand finalists.

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Quote: major black "Turner, Yeamo, Horne, Seymor, Mark O, Eamon O, Aspinwall, Heremaia, Westerman. Thats nine if my maths is correct. Most Hull fans know we would give anybody a game with a near full side out but to loose nine is a big ask of anybody.

Did make me laugh when leeds were getting beat they showed Burrow and Hauraki sat on the bench commenting on how they had big stars out. NOBS the lot of em. Apart from Carney.'"

I thought the same thing there actually, with Horney, Westerman and Heremaia sat in our injury bench.

They're just a bunch of prats.

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Quote: F.C. Aces "Or a point behind Wigan if we had already played Cats and won there.It really does annoy and amaze me when they all keep harping on that we have not played anyone, but with a bit of homework the muppets would of noticed that we have already beaten both of last seasons grand finalists.'"


As well as taking a point off the minor premiers. In fact, if you just look at head-to-head results between last season's playoff teams we're level with Warrington and only a point behind Hudds and Catalan.

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I think the points raised by Clarke and Cullen the week before are valid. On saturday only Crooks and Houghton were Hull lads and a city the size of Hull should be embarrassed by our failure to produce Super League quality players.It is nothing new as in the glory days of the 80s we had 4 Kiwis and an Aussie in the backs and a predominantly West Yorkshire pack. I don't know why we do not produce good players locally but ultimately we need a pipeline of up and coming local lads to balance the salary cap. If we recruit highly paid Aussies or pay transfer fees for talented English lads from other clubs we will not have enough quality players within the cap.

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Quote: onefinradford "I think the points raised by Clarke and Cullen the week before are valid. On saturday only Crooks and Houghton were Hull lads and a city the size of Hull should be embarrassed by our failure to produce Super League quality players.It is nothing new as in the glory days of the 80s we had 4 Kiwis and an Aussie in the backs and a predominantly West Yorkshire pack. I don't know why we do not produce good players locally but ultimately we need a pipeline of up and coming local lads to balance the salary cap. If we recruit highly paid Aussies or pay transfer fees for talented English lads from other clubs we will not have enough quality players within the cap.'"


We know our youth have been seriously lacking in recent years, the new chairman has put steps into to place to rectify this unfortunately it does not happen overnight. In time I am sure our youth policy will be very good and produce some of the stars of the future.

As for the 80's youth policies were poor throughout rugby league and the top teams just cherry picked the best players and slung them together with Aussies/Kiwis.

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Quote: Wellsy13 "I don't believe they're biased, and certainly don't believe they hate Hull (only a paranoid person with an inferiority complex would keep bringing that up).
I just think they're stupid and are trying to be controversial. The Willie Manu comment even had Eddie scratching his head, that's how stupid it was!'"


This.

A quick tour of these boards will reveal that pretty much every team thinks Sky in general and Clurkey in particular have it in for them. The logical conclusion is that they're just morons who like to say the odd controversial thing to get a reaction.

It's OK though, Clurkey has his unnecessary graphics and spurious stats to back him up, in his bid to sound like an insightful analyst of the game. A bid which has so far fooled nobody except the Sky Sports producers.

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Clarky has a short memory when Wigan was struggling at the bottom of the league they didnt bring young players.
They went out and bought players and broke the salary cap just to stay up .

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