Leeds away isn't a gimme. We were about 90 seconds away from it, so even "mediocre" as you say is giving us a chance right now.

Neither team creative in attack but FC were good in defence. Glad to hear Rapana is up and about. That was a worrying situation 

Just got back after a little diversion around North cave/South cave/God knows where!!!


Gutted to lose virtually at the death in heartbreaking fashion. Thought their try right on half time was crucial (dumb offload by Ashworth).


Gutsy effort though, can't fault them for that. Still feel positive about the progress we're making.

Another heroic performance, can't fault the endeavour of the players, unfortunately one idiotic decision to offload in front of the posts, killed our momentum going into the halftime break.
I thought Eseh was fantastic, he made good metres, and a couple of bone crunching tackles as well .

Recently some posters in my opinion, expectations for this squad have become unrealistic, fans at the beginning of the season, were happy that the team is to be competitive, this is exactly,what this team are COMPETITIVE..

Unfortunately at the moment, we don't have enough class players, to put teams away., until this happens, I expect we will continue to be in close fought games .

As long as our attitude and commitment remains, I for one am content.

Fo think the comparisons to last season are fair, Cartwright have had everything against them (except full salary cap) to get this team competing. Probably one of the hardest teams to recruit for last year, who would want to join Hull around May last year.


Also having, Holmes, Lane and Cartwright (even one of them) would not only strengthen the back row, but also allow Hardraker back into the centres.


I'm not having our performances are at Hodgson level either.


As people git a bit carried away with our Starr, think people are going over the top about our recent form (except Magic, even then, with more luck we would have won).


Leeds are a decent side and well coached.


Honestly think Hall is the only winger in SL who would have scored that try.

Good to see the improved discipline last night. No cards for a change and just two penalties.

Competitive as we were, gutting to concede 2 points late on.

Even after 65 years of fretting and worrying my way through any game my team are involved in it was still as heartbreaking a way to end a game as ever. but it was  a showing once again packed with endeavour guts and determination. Compared with the rest of the coaches we have endured of late it's great to see Cartwright majoring on improving something (our discipline and penalty count) and actually getting his wards to do it!! Compared with last season it's a revelation although one that is not always appreciated, because some I think have very short memories of just how disappointing, demeaning and down right crap it was. But the biggest plus for me is that coach. I honestly believe culture, accountability and disciplinary influence wise he's light years ahead of what we've seen and most of the current coaches in Super league. confidence is now the biggest enemy as the defeats stack up but Lots to build on and despite the disappointment lots to be proud and optimistic about for me. 

I went last night and thought both teams were poor, Hull had no go forward with Ese Ese and Knight on but seem to come alive with Ashworth and Eseh on but they second pairing only seemed to play limited minutes together. Second row an obvious problem. I'd have Ashworth and Fash second row next game, put Hardaker back to centre in place of Litten who just isn't good enough yet. A few games in and I'm still not seeing what Pryce brings to the side and I feel like we're carrying him hoping he's gonna come good but ut isn't happening at, no coincidence that we've lost, shape, energy, defensive strength since Litten and Pryce started playing? 


Lots of things need to improve quickly though but I don't seen it happening. I saw a bottom four side out there last night, I know thats where most had us finishing, Cartwright took the plaudits in the first few games and now needs to accept some critisim in that we don't look like we've worked on anything since the Huddersfield loss, same slow defence, same stupid mistakes.


Utterly disappointed but also a massive reality check, we're not top six material and will lose again more times this season than we win