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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"Arundel an easy target there. Was right in that circumstance to go for it and was a little unlucky I thought. Lineham found touch once n got away witha another, very lucky pen but dumb play. Both players young though. Was a bit away but wingers getting done on a high ball isn't just a hull thing or a Briscoe thing. MASSIVELY over blown. Every team n winger is getting this done to them weekly nearly. Massive part of the game now. Even hall got done on Friday (that said although miles away, Briscoe looks to have made a hash of it today)
I'm not as aggressive in my criticism of Danny h but do largely agree. For all other aspects of play he'd be in the England squad. Passing is why he isn't.'"
Sorry but Arundle wouldnt have scored as the winger caught him and another player was coming across and it was a 2 man tackle that got him in touch...he should have come inside,its a centres job to look around and see whats happening.Lineham just goes dead straight anyway and the Briscoe thing isnt massively overdone...look at how many times he gets out jumped and why do teams kick to him.
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| Quote ="HULLFC 4 LIFE"Also Briscoe did not need to even take the ball he could of let McGillvary catch it then tackle him as he was not near the line and a few people behind me said the same'"
Exactly......Why teams dont just stand off and let them catch it then move in.
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| Plenty of effort but totally clueless with the ball in hand. There really is no improvement at all in this area since agar went. We look like a team who doesn't train together all week. Surely, with your playmakers missing or unfamiliar with the rest of the team, you absolutely have to be using set plays and executing them to perfection? I see no evidence whatsoever of it.
Support play non existent, although the fact we never look to offload makes this pretty much irrelevant. Last tackle plays in the opposition 20 are piiss poor. I'm bored of watching us ship the ball aimlessly across the line with no one willing to run with it and challenge the opposition. Where are the dummy runners causing confusion in defence?
Very disappointing IMO. If hudds had of had the possession and field position we did today they'd have won by 20 points
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Plenty of effort but totally clueless with the ball in hand. There really is no improvement at all in this area since agar went. We look like a team who doesn't train together all week. Surely, with your playmakers missing or unfamiliar with the rest of the team, you absolutely have to be using set plays and executing them to perfection? I see no evidence whatsoever of it.
Support play non existent, although the fact we never look to offload makes this pretty much irrelevant. Last tackle plays in the opposition 20 are piiss poor. I'm bored of watching us ship the ball aimlessly across the line with no one willing to run with it and challenge the opposition. Where are the dummy runners causing confusion in defence?
Very disappointing IMO. If hudds had of had the possession and field position we did today they'd have won by 20 points'"
agree, if we were trying set piece moves and they just weren't coming off (such as knocking on during a fast passing move) then I'd say fair enough...the issue is we don't even attempt any special plays and as you say the team look like they train on their own all week.
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| Quote ="UllFC"agree, if we were trying set piece moves and they just weren't coming off (such as knocking on during a fast passing move) then I'd say fair enough...the issue is we don't even attempt any special plays and as you say the team look like they train on their own all week.'"
And we seem to do everything in slow motion compared to other teams
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| Quote ="UllFC".... during a fast passing move.....'"
if only!! we're the slowest passing team in the league
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| We must be the most predictable team in attacking also
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| Still can't convert possession in the opponents 25 into points.
Been no improvement in this area of our game.
We look so laboured its painful to watch.
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| Quote ="HULLFC 4 LIFE"We must be the most predictable team in attacking also'"
if I see that short inside drop-off pass one more time! ![Shoot Poster a026.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//a026.gif)
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| Quote ="UllFC"if I see that short inside drop-off pass one more time!
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Huddersfield employed that tactic at least twice as many times as us during the game out of interest.
Hate to say it but the majority of our attacking woes begin at the pass from acting half - Danny Houghton I'm afraid is just not consistent enough. He had two props to hit under the sticks either of which would have scored had the pass been where it should have been but instead it was impossible to take and the chance was lost.
We were better for sure without being just good enough. Miller tried to take it to the line a bit more often and his own performances whilst not perfect are encouraging. Azza gives his all but at the end of the day isn't a half and he'll put in one good performance in four or five in that position. At the end we lost down to a piece of bad fortune but we need to do better next week - at least there is something to build on after the previous two.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Huddersfield employed that tactic at least twice as many times as us during the game out of interest.
Hate to say it but the majority of our attacking woes begin at the pass from acting half - Danny Houghton I'm afraid is just not consistent enough. He had two props to hit under the sticks either of which would have scored had the pass been where it should have been but instead it was impossible to take and the chance was lost.
We were better for sure without being just good enough. Miller tried to take it to the line a bit more often and his own performances whilst not perfect are encouraging. Azza gives his all but at the end of the day isn't a half and he'll put in one good performance in four or five in that position. At the end we lost down to a piece of bad fortune but we need to do better next week - at least there is something to build on after the previous two.'"
it's not a bad tactic if you have big forwards like Crabtree, and it can be used to tire out the opposition. But we have the likes of Lynch slowly plodding in to the line, which neither causes a gap or tires the opposition!
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| Quote ="UllFC"it's not a bad tactic if you have big forwards like Crabtree, and it can be used to tire out the opposition. But we have the likes of Lynch slowly plodding in to the line, which neither causes a gap or tires the opposition!'"
Thought Lynch was as good as if not better than Crabtree today. Our forwards more than matched theirs which is why we stayed right with them for the whole game. The "drop off ball" that our fans like to bemoan is used extensively in the league every week.
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| Thought we played well today despite lacking direction in attack.
1st Point i'd like to make is, Houghton needs to practice passing right alot more. To many times his dodgy passes are at our players legs. I no it's hard if your a right handed player but it's professional rugby league.
I thought we were unlucky with some dubious refereeing decisions. How on earth the touch judge could not see the knock on in the second half, but what was worse was Bentham ruled back to 1. There was no FC player in sight.
Overall the performance was good, But to be honest i were expecting it as we were up against a good team.
Last thing, what actually happened in that little scuffle after Ogre's try?? All i saw was a quick pass by Miller sent Ogre crashing over then there was fighting.
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| Very disappointing to see our great home form of 2012 disappear.
Last year we managed W12 D2 L1 whereas this season it's W5 L5. We are almost certain to fail to match last season's 32 points and it may be our worst points return since 2009.
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| Quote ="shauney"Did he not have a foot in touch and then swiped the moving ball over?'"
it had stopped moving before he took it over the line, correct decision, bad error from McDonnell that.
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| Still playing too much dumb rugby. Arundel and the fullback mistake has been mentioned but also Tickle kicking the ball out on the restart. Miller looked a lot better today tacking charge. If Horney is fit then this could be a good combination. Also interesting to note that they moved Miller to the left when he is defending.
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| Quote ="Maxi Mc"Still playing too much dumb rugby. Arundel and the fullback mistake has been mentioned but also Tickle kicking the ball out on the restart. Miller looked a lot better today tacking charge. If Horney is fit then this could be a good combination. Also interesting to note that they moved Miller to the left when he is defending.'"
Poor distribution by Houghton under their sticks cost us a certain try and Westerman knocked on near there in a tackle as well - something that fall-guy Lynch got slated for last week. Miller has definite potential despite obviously looking quite lightweight at times - it must be one hell of a baptism coming into this side at the minute.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Players yet again being stupid,Arundel going down touchline and going in touch,even Stevie Wonder would have seen that coming'"
Lineham shouldn't have passed it to him in the first place, the winger had turned his back to him in expectation that he was going to pass it. Should have dummied and gone himself, would have been away easily. I also think Arundel was hard down to by being called in touch, looked to me like he had been tackled then was pushed over the line after the tackle had been made.
Quote ="fc baldy"Briscoe getting done on a high kick AGAIN'"
Wasn't the best effort, but McGilvray was always going to win that contest being the bigger man and running onto it. What we should be questioning here is how Brough got so much time to place his kick, and why, when we know high balls aren't Briscoe's strength, isn't he helped in this area defensively.
Quote ="fc baldy"did anyone else notice at the end of the 1st half..Miller had to jump into acting half because both hookers nowhere to be seen and Houghtons passing was bloody abysmal..he is superleagues biggest myth.'"
We were only playing one hooker today, Heremaia was half back, but I see what you mean regarding Houghton's passing. Despite being an excellent defender, with a massive work rate, his vision in attack is his downfall.
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| Question? Do we have a club policy were the players are not aloud to offload? Leeds will offload more times in one set than we do in a season. Granted you cant offload all the time, but if we off load once a game its a miracle. How many times today did Hudds slip the ball out the tackle, Whiting did it once for us in the whole game.
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| Third worst attack in the league is utterly shocking for a team with players such as Briscoe, Crooks, Lineham, Holdsworth in it.
Complete embarrassment.
No runners providing options, no offloads, no flair, no speed and just no idea what to do.
We're a very poor attacking team who can't play as a team. We've got some very good players individually but that's it.
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| Think a draw would have been a fair result today....but we got a bit of luck at the end and sneaked it, thought the officials were appaling for both sides and missed plenty of stuff. Dont think the heat helped as players from both looked dead on their feet at times.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Third worst attack in the league is utterly shocking for a team with players such as Briscoe, Crooks, Lineham, Holdsworth in it.
Complete embarrassment.
No runners providing options, no offloads, no flair, no speed and just no idea what to do.
We're a very poor attacking team who can't play as a team. We've got some very good players individually but that's it.'"
This is why there's now a big question mark over gentle IMO. He has better players at the club than last season yet we're no better and probably worse
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| Did Gentle give Huddersfield any credit?
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| I felt we were a bit hard done to today and a couple of bounces of ball the other way could have won. Which is nice because the last 3 losses have felt completely justified.
Effort was there today and this showed in the (majority of the) defence. Attack wise we still look a little clueless for most of it, which is annoying when you see potential there such as the first try - we just seem to forget how to do it!
I fully expect us to make it a run of 5 next week but those who think that might have gentle worried about his future; get a grip, it's 5 losses. I'm not saying our form or improvement/lack of improvement is acceptable but if you think a run of 5 losses will mean "bye-bye" then you're dafter than I thought.
Our big problem IMO is the cohesion/thinking ahead/running for each other you see in the better clubs. This can be attributed a lot to confidence, but is also a general marker of the "happiness" of the team. It is very small margins in this game and the difference isnt much between a well oiled machine and a bag of spanners. Something isn't quite clicking, but if we can find that missing something then we have the squad to do things. As it is, bags of spanners all round.
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| Quote ="bishops finger"Did Gentle give Huddersfield any credit?'"
yes, thanks for your interest, you can go now and celebrate your teams march towards superleague superiority
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