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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Good to see Matty Laidlaw getting rewarded with a 'rising star' placement and training with the first team now. Heard he impressed a lot of people in his first session with his aggression and physicality, mainly for putting a massive hit on Sao. Expect him to overtake Burrell on the depth chart as our young backup prop.'"
Not heard much about Burrell recently. I haven't seen any reserve games so can't compare him and Laidlaw but Matty has impressed me in the u18s. Looks nails.
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| Quote ="C for Cuckoo"Not heard much about Burrell recently. I haven't seen any reserve games so can't compare him and Laidlaw but Matty has impressed me in the u18s. Looks nails.'" You can't coach aggression and Laidlaw brings that, unlike Burrell. We still need to get the Stavely situation resolved because he should be getting a shot at first grade if he is staying.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"You can't coach aggression and Laidlaw brings that, unlike Burrell. We still need to get the Stavely situation resolved because he should be getting a shot at first grade if he is staying.'"
Whats the situation on Staverly HF?
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| Quote ="Dave K."Whats the situation on Staverly HF?'" NRL clubs are interested in him from what I've heard, could be another Rushton from Wigan situation.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"NRL clubs are interested in him from what I've heard, could be another Rushton from Wigan situation.'"
Couldn't blame the lad, hopefully he will stay, think he likes it at Hull and his dad has been very vocal on Twitter about how good Hull have been.
Think next season will be his break out season, we are pretty strong in the positions he plays to be fair.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Couldn't blame the lad, hopefully he will stay, think he likes it at Hull and his dad has been very vocal on Twitter about how good Hull have been.
Think next season will be his break out season, we are pretty strong in the positions he plays to be fair.'" Hopefully because you see players who spend too long at a level they are too good for developing bad habits that they can't get away with when step up a level.
I'd like to see him on loan somewhere playing against grown men because right now he needs to be tested physically.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Hopefully because you see players who spend too long at a level they are too good for developing bad habits that they can't get away with when step up a level.
I'd like to see him on loan somewhere playing against grown men because right now he needs to be tested physically.'"
Definitely, probably Whitehaven, would do him some good, think he has the size to hold his own.
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| 8 players in the 21 man academy Yorkshire squad.
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| Quote ="Dave K."8 players in the 21 man academy Yorkshire squad.'"
Good to see
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| Do we trust our young players enough, for example we have Litten and Hookem, both played representative football, stood out in academy and reserves and praised by coaches and players. Hookem is 19 (20 in October) compare this to players about his age?
Both Corey Hall and Lewis Murphy are both playing regularly for Wakefield
Same with Connor Wrench and Jake Thewlis at Warrington.
Plenty at Leeds the same age, playing games and not looking out of place.
Ok so none of these are halfbacks, so lets compare him to Mikey Lewis and Lewis Dodd, both are about 1 year older than Hookem.
At the same age as Hookem is now, Dodd played 21 games including the grand final for Saints, Lewis 13 games for Rovers.
Maybe Hodgson doesn't rate him, but his performance and comments after the Wakey game last year doesn't make be think so,
This isn't just about Hookem, the same applies to Litten and Balmforth, if they were at Leeds, Wigan or Saints, I'd bet that all 3 would be in double figures on appearances by now.
Brown was under used the previous two seasons too IMO, often preferring Bowden, even though most people could see Brown was a better player.
We look to have an outstanding academy at the moment, but that is no good is we don't offer them a pathway to the first team and give them a chance when players playing in their positions are under performing or you have lots of injuries and you choose to play a slow average hooker in your position.
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| No, I don't think we do.
At the moment we have nothing to lose by playing Hookem over Reynolds.
Reynolds offers nothing going forward and is terrible in defence so even if Hookem struggles I don't see how we are worse off.
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| Quote ="scarrie"No, I don't think we do.
At the moment we have nothing to lose by playing Hookem over Reynolds.
Reynolds offers nothing going forward and is terrible in defence so even if Hookem struggles I don't see how we are worse off.'"
Exactly this and we make a contingency plan for if he was to struggle by making use of the bench. Even something like Joey at 9, Houghton on the bench then if Hookem struggles or tires we move Joey to 6 with Houghton in at 9. The only possible downside is it may knock his confidence but that's a risk with any player.
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| We will never know how good they are unless we give them a chance.
Yeamo had a nightmare debut but then ended up playing for GB.
Think it will reinvigorate supporters as well seeing someone given a chance.
Thought BH would be bolder but seems to go for the safe option at times. No doubt the injuries will be an excuse now not to drop senior players.
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| The playing of Johnstone over Balmforth is the decision I just can't understand, it was made clear he was surplus to requirements and he is playing over somebody who is way too good not to be playing first grade.
If Griffin is suspended hopefully Severs gets his chance from the bench.
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| Hull has an issue in which they over protect our young players. Firm believer in 'if they are good enough, they are old enough'. Yes they may not be physically developed to the optimum levels, but how will they get the experience if they are not given a chance?
How many times do Wigan, Saints and even credit to Leeds churn out these young players who end up holding their own in super league? We have one of the biggest and best pools of local talent in the game and id even go as far to say that it is wasted.
Balmorth for Johnstone is a prime example. A young, exciting player cant get in the side over a player who we was trying to shift during the winter. I praised Hodgson for giving the likes of Scott/Wynne/McNamara/Brown a chance, but I think its fair the likes of Balmorth, Severs, Litten and Hookem all get their chance.
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| It could be as simple as a salary cap thing. If we play Litten, Barron, Hookem - then their full salary (small as it may be) will count against the cap?
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| Quote ="Irregs#16"It could be as simple as a salary cap thing. If we play Litten, Barron, Hookem - then their full salary (small as it may be) will count against the cap?'"
The Salary cap for a club applies to its top 25 earners.
So unless an Academy player is paid that rate, then it makes no difference.
Conversely, even if they don`t play 1st team games, an Academy player`s contract would still count on the cap, if they in the highest 25 paid contracts.
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| Even if we had cap issues, deregistering Cator would free up the necessary room.
I reckon it's more likely to be the conservatism of a coach whose job is far from safe who isn't ready to gamble his career on the maturity of 18 year olds.
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| I've not seen much of Staveley - what are his main qualities? He looks a big lad, so does he purely rely on strength?
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| Quote ="Irregs#16"I've not seen much of Staveley - what are his main qualities? He looks a big lad, so does he purely rely on strength?'"
He has skills and agility. If he didn't have legs like bollards he'd probably be a decent 6.
He scores a stand off's try around 1:10 in this video. The tackle attempt wasn't great but it shows he isn't just there for his size.
[urlhttps://twitter.com/hullfcofficial/status/1533856245886636034?t=JI8wGAkm8TIx_r75cks8cw&s=19[/url
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| Quote ="C for Cuckoo"He has skills and agility. If he didn't have legs like bollards he'd probably be a decent 6.'" He doesn't look out of place playing that 1st receiver role as you say, I think he will go back to being a 13 eventually. Know a few people involved in the junior set-up and all speak glowingly of him for the way he sets the standards in training and leads the way in the gym.
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| If the last 2 posts are true, then I am surprised he hasn't had a squad place at least so far this season. Sounds like he would perform better in the back row than JJ
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| Quote ="Irregs#16"If the last 2 posts are true, then I am surprised he hasn't had a squad place at least so far this season. Sounds like he would perform better in the back row than JJ'"
He's had injury problems. If he stays fit I'd expect to seem him this year.
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| Quote ="C for Cuckoo"He's had injury problems. If he stays fit I'd expect to seem him this year.'"
Yes played a few games them missed a couple a few times this season, so has really got going.
We have been pretty strong in the forwards having said that I still think he would have more than JJ at 13 or from the bench.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Yes played a few games them missed a couple a few times this season, so has really got going.
We have been pretty strong in the forwards having said that I still think he would have more than JJ at 13 or from the bench.'"
If anything happens to Fash or Brown I'd love to see Stavely on the bench.
I don't know how fit Severs is after his injury but I'd like to see him come in for Griff next week.
I think we both agree that Hookem is due a shot. Whitehaven have just signed a half on loan from Catalan so maybe we are getting him back.
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