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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"I don't understand how this is a 'fresh start'? Surely it's same poop, different place?'"
Maybe jumped before pushed?
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"Lee Crooks.'"
![bow down a014.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//a014.gif) (as a player.)
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| Quote ="barton baird"Maybe jumped before pushed?'"
Probably so. Not a fresh start though, by any stretch.
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| Quote ="Standee"a sign of his ambition, and why we're best rid of him.'"
Dont knock wakefield ,Your new number 2 lives here FACT ![CURTAIN curtain.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//curtain.gif)
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| Quote ="barton baird"Maybe jumped before pushed?'"
Dont think he was going to be pushed but probably saw the major overhaul happening at the club and felt the safer option was following Agar to Wakey.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"No thanks. Was very disrespectful to the fans, Briscoe and Yeaman in the good Friday Derby this year.'"
Think it will happen, Chester to be no.2.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Think it will happen, Chester to be no.2.'"
No thanks ! Rather see the prik stay where he is !
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"No thanks ! Rather see the prik stay where he is !'"
Be prepared to get upset shortly then.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"No thanks ! Rather see the prik stay where he is !'"
It will happen. I always liked him as a player, very underrated.
Okay he coached Rovers and had the odd run in but it's no big deal really, is it?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"It will happen. I always liked him as a player, very underrated.
Okay he coached Rovers and had the odd run in but it's no big deal really, is it?'"
I also liked him as a player, apart from being made of biscuit during his time with us.
He has nailed his colours firmly to the stinking R&W mast in recent years and I don't want him anywhere near Hull FC !
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| The fact that Webster has chosen to go to Wakefield and continue his coaching apprenticeship with Agar, is good enough reason to me for him not staying here.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"I also liked him as a player, apart from being made of biscuit during his time with us.
He has nailed his colours firmly to the stinking R&W mast in recent years and I don't want him anywhere near Hull FC !'"
He took a coaching job at Hull KR, what's the big deal?
I'm prepared to give him a chance back at Hull.
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| I'm more bothered about the sudden influx of howes' clinets than chester being appointed
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"I also liked him as a player, apart from being made of biscuit during his time with us.
He has nailed his colours firmly to the stinking R&W mast in recent years [uand I don't want him anywhere near Hull FC[/u !'"
you better get used to the idea ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'm more bothered about the sudden influx of howes' clinets than chester being appointed'"
That does seem to be cause for concern. I'd like to think that we're seeking out the very best person available for every position we need to fill. It would be a massive coincidence (too massive?) if all of the best people available just happened to have the same agent. Wouldn't it?
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| Quote ="Rock God X"That does seem to be cause for concern. I'd like to think that we're seeking out the very best person available for every position we need to fill. It would be a massive coincidence (too massive?) if all of the best people available just happened to have the same agent. Wouldn't it?'"
Especially when they include an unqualified conditioner with no experience, his wife as physio and the assistant coach from one of the few teams who actually appeared to be worse than us for most of last season
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'm more bothered about the sudden influx of howes' clinets than chester being appointed'"
It's bothering me. Has Bomber been given too much control? Is AP scrutinising each of these appointments or is he allowing Bomber/Howes to suit themselves?
First rumblings of not being completely happy with the new regime are emerging perhaps?
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| Quote ="wolfie"you better get used to the idea
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I kind of already am !
I thought he was a great player at Hull (when he wasn't injured of course) but since he went over there, he just became another washed-up ex-FC player who sold out to our little neighbours for a few quid.
That said, he didn't just "do his job" over there, he really seemed to have a genuine dislike for our club (and our fans on at least one occasion).
So I for one will not be welcoming him back! Don't suppose he'll lose any sleep over that though! LOL ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif)
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Especially when they include an unqualified conditioner with no experience, his wife as physio and the assistant coach from one of the few teams who actually appeared to be worse than us for most of last season'"
It's the conditioner appointment that worries me most. It's such an important area that we simply can't afford to get it wrong. The asst coach will largely do what they're told by Gentle anyway, so that's not as big a concern. But conditioning is a different matter, and I don't think it's an area we should be gambling on someone who isn't proven at the top level. The new guy might turn out to be brilliant, of course, but it's a bloody risky strategy, if you ask me.
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| I'm beginning to wonder if the Howes connection is something that FC are encouraging,
maybe Howes is our preferred Agent?
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| Quote ="OmneFC"I'm beginning to wonder if the Howes connection is something that FC are encouraging,
maybe Howes is our preferred Agent?'"
maybe Howes is part of how AP funded the purchase!
(he was working with him and Barmby when they first bid a few years ago, and he was also involved in the MKM bid as far as I know)
and where is the evidence the conditioner is unqualified? (not directed at you OmneFC)
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| Quote ="Standee"maybe Howes is part of how AP funded the purchase!
(he was working with him and Barmby when they first bid a few years ago, and he was also involved in the MKM bid as far as I know)
and where is the evidence the conditioner is unqualified? (not directed at you OmneFC)'"
On linkedin the new conditioner looked like he had plenty of relevant experience and qualifications to me,
Maybe we need some current thinking and up to date practices in that area of the club - something we have been lacking?
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| Quote ="OmneFC"On linkedin the new conditioner looked like he had plenty of relevant experience and qualifications to me,
Maybe we need some current thinking and up to date practices in that area of the club - something we have been lacking?'"
I agree, and I'm certainly not going to sit on the sidelines bagging the buy before we've even seen any evidence of his ability.
Amazing how some people think Gentle is the messiah and yet the new conditioner isn't good enough because he hasn't got SL experience.
talk about double standards
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| Quote ="Standee"I agree, and I'm certainly not going to sit on the sidelines bagging the buy before we've even seen any evidence of his ability.
Amazing how some people think Gentle is the messiah and yet the new conditioner isn't good enough because he hasn't got SL experience.
talk about double standards'"
Gentle has worked with success (albeit as an assistant) in a much higher level of the game than SL.
Devlin has worked without success in lower levels of our game and in the other code.
How is it double standards to expect more from Gentle than Devlin in their respective roles?
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| Quote ="Standee"I agree, and I'm certainly not going to sit on the sidelines bagging the buy before we've even seen any evidence of his ability.'"
Neither am I. In fact, I have already stated that he 'might be brilliant'. But we have no way of knowing that because he has yet to prove it at the top level. We've gone down the road of appointing an unproven person to a key role in the not too distant past, and look how that worked out. I'm talking about your beloved 'Fubar', by the way.
Quote ="Standee"Amazing how some people think Gentle is the messiah and yet the new conditioner isn't good enough because he hasn't got SL experience.
talk about double standards'"
People think Gentle is the Messiah? Wow. I hadn't noticed. Perhaps you can quote some posts where he has been hailed as such? Gentle might not have SL experience, but he does have NRL and international experience, albeit as an assistant. That's more than our new conditioner has, by some distance.
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