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| i wish we would look further than leeds for replacements, sounds as tho kath goes cap in hand to gary asking for help
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| Quote ="airlie73"i wish we would look further than leeds for replacements, sounds as tho kath goes cap in hand to gary asking for help'"
So you wish we'd never picked up the likes of Dowes, Carvell, Raynor, Lupton, Broughton, Scruton etc etc?
It's perfect for us really to have the instant access to loan players when required and some that become permanent.
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| Good player, highly rated at Leeds
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"So you wish we'd never picked up the likes of Dowes, Carvell, Raynor, Lupton, Broughton, Scruton etc etc?
It's perfect for us really to have the instant access to loan players when required and some that become permanent.'"
Too true. And it seems we don't have to reciprocate when Leeds get an injury crisis. Win-win!!
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| I take it he wont play against Leeds on Saturday , Good piece of business by Hull.
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| Why would Leeds loan us their players enabling us to strenghten our injury hit positions, increase our chances of winning a game or two, and therefore gain more points on the league ladder ??
Unless of course they don't consider us to be anywhere near good enough to challenge them in the SL table !!! 
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| looks a good player from what i have heard
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Why would Leeds loan us their players enabling us to strenghten our injury hit positions, increase our chances of winning a game or two, and therefore gain more points on the league ladder ?? '"
When loaning out youngsters, you don't see it as strengthening opponents. It's to give experience to one of most promising players for the future, as we have Buderus and Diskin. Sitting in the reserves for the year will do him no good, so getting game time this year means he should be ready to replace Buderus if he leaves next year.
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| Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"When loaning out youngsters, you don't see it as strengthening opponents. It's to give experience to one of most promising players for the future, as we have Buderus and Diskin. Sitting in the reserves for the year will do him no good, so getting game time this year means he should be ready to replace Buderus if he leaves next year.'"
But you could of course send him to a team that is going to be towrds the botoom of the SL table. Cas, Salford, Quins, Dobbins etc..
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"But you could of course send him to a team that is going to be towrds the botoom of the SL table. Cas, Salford, Quins, Dobbins etc..'"
As far as I know, they do not require a spare hooker. Whereas you obviously do.
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| Quote ="B0NES"I take it he wont play against Leeds on Saturday , Good piece of business by Hull.'"
Doubt it but i remember Scruton once playing v Leeds for us and scoring a try. When he smiled he had his Leeds gumshield in. 
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"But you could of course send him to a team that is going to be towrds the botoom of the SL table. Cas, Salford, Quins, Dobbins etc..'"
...... I could but it's too easy.. 
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Doubt it but i remember Scruton once playing v Leeds for us and scoring a try. When he smiled he had his Leeds gumshield in.
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Its down to the parent club whether the can play against them, like we allowed Richie Barnett Jnr to play against us when he went to Salford. And I remember Scruton doing that, while he was at Hull he changed his gumshield to black and white aswell 
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| Quote ="barham red"...... I could but it's too easy..
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Sorry I forgot.... If you carry on playing against the weakened/decimated squads of the top teams like you already have against Leeds, Saints and Wire, of course you'll finish much higher up the table !!!! 
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Sorry I forgot.... If you carry on playing against the weakened/decimated squads of the top teams like you already have against Leeds, Saints and Wire, of course you'll finish much higher up the table !!!!
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To be fair to our red & white friends (much as I hate being fair to our red & white friends!) they can only beat what's in front of them.
However to get back on topic what does anyone know about McShane?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"So you wish we'd never picked up the likes of Dowes, Carvell, Raynor, Lupton, Broughton, Scruton etc etc?
It's perfect for us really to have the instant access to loan players when required and some that become permanent.'"
what i'm saying is why is it ALWAYS Leeds? why don't we have a look at any other clubs?
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| Quote ="airlie73"what i'm saying is why is it ALWAYS Leeds? why don't we have a look at any other clubs?'"
Its not to far for the youngsters to travel, can probably get lifts with the West Yorkshire lads, were as if their coming from Lancashire its a longer journey and probably by there self.
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| Quote ="airlie73"what i'm saying is why is it ALWAYS Leeds? why don't we have a look at any other clubs?'"
why not?
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| Quote ="airlie73"what i'm saying is why is it ALWAYS Leeds? why don't we have a look at any other clubs?'"
Few reasons why imo:
1. Commutable location
2. One of the best junior set ups in the country
3. Good relationships mean quicker (and maybe more flexible) deals
What would be the point in looking at clubs for loan players that done meet the above criteria?
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| Quote ="airlie73"what i'm saying is why is it ALWAYS Leeds? why don't we have a look at any other clubs?'"
tbf if you choose teams to take loanees off then usually it would be the champions you would look at first. He's not just a reserve either seems well embedded in their first team squad. And if we have no money free on the cap then Kath uses payment in kind everyone's a winner.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Few reasons why imo:
1. Commutable location
2. One of the best junior set ups in the country
3. Good relationships mean quicker (and maybe more flexible) deals
What would be the point in looking at clubs for loan players that done meet the above criteria?'"
Or in a nutshell name me a better quality hooker available for loan now! 
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Or in a nutshell name me a better quality hooker available for loan now!
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Fair point. 
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He seems well thought of by the Leeds fans:
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=453228
certainly to the extent that they woudn't want him playing for us against them.
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He seems well thought of by the Leeds fans:
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=453228
certainly to the extent that they woudn't want him playing for us against them.
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Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"He seems well thought of by the Leeds fans:
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=453228
certainly to the extent that they woudn't want him playing for us against them.'"
If he's learnt half of what he knows from Diskin and Buderas he wont be too shabby.
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Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"He seems well thought of by the Leeds fans:
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=453228
certainly to the extent that they woudn't want him playing for us against them.'"
If he's learnt half of what he knows from Diskin and Buderas he wont be too shabby.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Or in a nutshell name me a better quality hooker available for loan now!
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Terry newton 
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