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Does anyone not think houghtons totally stifling us at the play the ball? His body language and lack of intensity is alarming, zero interest in organising the runners too.

Same lack of intensity in defence in the centres too.

Jordan Lane also going through the motions, moping then having petulant brainfarts.

Swap those 4 out we improve alot,

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Quote: bishops finger "Fan, not fans dave, I only speak for myself.

As for the evidence, I'm just wondering why if the evidence is that concrete, that London are looking to take it further, you've obviously got your black n white glasses on whereas I'm just an interested onlooker.'"


Surely you should be asking London fans that instead of playing devils advocate on here?

RFL have issued a conclusive statement and that should be the end of it.

But we all see things differently. We feel Hiku should have been banned for his disgusting challenge on Field in the semi. If he had I dare say Peters would have been appealing straight away?

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Quote: davey41 "Surely you should be asking London fans that instead of playing devils advocate on here?

RFL have issued a conclusive statement and that should be the end of it.

But we all see things differently. We feel Hiku should have been banned for his disgusting challenge on Field in the semi. If he had I dare say Peters would have been appealing straight away?'"


Surely forums are for playing devil's advocate on?

Regarding the Hiku incident, not one Wigan player reacted, that tells me that there really wasn't any head contact, but as you say, we all see things differently.

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Quote: bishops finger "Fan, not fans dave, I only speak for myself.

As for the evidence, I'm just wondering why if the evidence is that concrete, that London are looking to take it further, you've obviously got your black n white glasses on whereas I'm just an interested onlooker.'"


You can, be you are letting your bias take over here. They are backing their players word, despite there being zero evidence.

We have had this go against us with Griffin that I had to accept even with my supposed black and white glasses on.

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Quote: Dave K. "You can, be you are letting your bias take over here. They are backing their players word, despite there being zero evidence.

We have had this go against us with Griffin that I had to accept even with my supposed black and white glasses on.'"


No I'm trying not to be biased, I've never said that he's guilty.
I was more interested in the evidence that London put forward, they must have thought it was worth submitting, yet the RFL have classed it as contradictory, obviously London don't think it is

I'd forgotten about the Griffin incident tbh, the RFL are always going to take the word of the ref though,

Anyway I doubt it'll go any further so let's leave it there

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Quote: bishops finger "No I'm trying not to be biased, I've never said that he's guilty.
I was more interested in the evidence that London put forward, they must have thought it was worth submitting, yet the RFL have classed it as contradictory, obviously London don't think it is

I'd forgotten about the Griffin incident tbh, the RFL are always going to take the word of the ref though,

Anyway I doubt it'll go any further so let's leave it there'"


Problem as I said in an earlier post is that we don't know what evidence London submitted. For all we know it might have just been a statement from the player in question (HDM say it is Sadiq Adebiyi BTW) with fellow players backing him up. We just don't know. All we do know is that the RFL have audio from the ref's mic that they felt was compelling and contradicted whatever evidence London provided. Without knowing what London provided, we as fans of the sport can't weigh up whether one set of evidence should trump the other so we have to trust the RFL on this one. I know that is difficult at times but they have shown in the past that they take these matters seriously with incidents such as Maguire, Griffin and Clubb so to exonerate Ese Ese completely and not even give him a slap on the wrist... they must feel it was quite convincing. Not only that but I would say that they have absolutely nothing to gain from trying to brush this under the table given the nature of the charge and the public nature it has been carried out.

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