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I do have a degree of sympathy here for Tex Hoy.
I've always had the feeling that he is one of those 'confidence' players, one who maybe needs an arm around the shoulder on a regular basis in order to get the best out of him.

I do wonder what he would look like in a better side, one which is on the front foot a little more and could therefore exploit his skills better than we have. It would be interesting to see how he went in a team like Leeds who tend to play a fairly open expansive game. Used correctly I still think he would be a worthy addition to most SL sides (but not us!).

I know some on here will say it should be up to him to 'knuckle down' and do the job he's paid for, but it's a two-way situation. Yes, the player has a responsibility to work hard, but the club (specifically the coaching staff) also have to create a working environment which will get the best out of the players, as in any workplace. I doubt whether going to work at Hull Fc is a particularly enjoyable or inspiring environment right now.

Wrong player at the wrong club at the wrong time would seem to be the epitaph to his time with us. Let's face it, if any of us (whatever our occupation is/was) were working for a company and the prospects for advancement were looking decidedly shaky, I think virtually all of us would cast around for better employment opportunities. Why should a professional sportsman be any different in that regard?

To me Hoy leaving the club is symptomatic of wider issues currently surrounding us. The way the club is being run, the direction of travel (downwards and backwards basically), an everyday work experience which is probably dull and uninspiring, an overall feeling that this is a club/company going nowhere.
Who, given those circumstances, wouldn't want to move on elsewhere?

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Quote: TnT "Meaning he’s getting to his best in an environment that nurtures that. Is this better coaching, better team mates, more forgiving fans, less pressure? Clubs have to acquire talent which I think Hoy is and tune it, prepare it, treasure it, respect it etc,etc. Hull didn’t seem to do that. Even Verstappens car needs attention for peak performance. That’s the ‘And’'"


I’d say based on things that have come to light it’s probably been down to the poor Coaching & Environment under Smith along with Tex not putting in the required effort & commitment at Hull which Tex admitted himself.

Shame his exit was before Smiths as would have been interesting to see how he went under Grix, but that all history now.

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the issue is if the coached can't really be assed why should the players? Hoy is definitely a talent and some of the blame lies with him but the environment has to also be right

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I haven't read it but was told Hoy was having a dig at Hull fans on social media.

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Haven't seen that, thought he was pretty classy after he scored, didn't really celebrate (I wouldn't begrudge him that). Apart from the try, which had an element of luck, I didn't think he was great TBH.

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