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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"Whilst the KC is in public ownership there is virtually no chance we will never be kicked out. If it's in private ownership then the situation changes dramatically'"
In either case we'd be owed compensation. The Allams will not want to kick FC out of the stadium. As i said, they will not want to lose a major revenue stream.
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| Quote Big Dave T="Big Dave T"In either case we'd be owed compensation. The Allams will not want to kick FC out of the stadium. As i said, they will not want to lose a major revenue stream.'"
You're being naive. The amount we pay would be dwarfed by income for city if they get back in the premiership and there is no such thing as a watertight tenancy agreement
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| What are the scenarios here? I'm assuming that City and FC are the only clubs involved as Rovers are progressing their own ground.
1) Allams don't buy KC stadium as council declines. Allams build a stadium at Melton for City only. FC left as sole tenants at KC with probably inaffordable costs.
2) Allams don't buy KC stadium as council declines. Allams build a stadium at Melton for City and FC to share. KC stadium left as white elephant.
3) Allams buy KC stadium for City to use only. FC compensated but need to build own stadium.
4) Allams buy KC stadium for continued use by both clubs. FC presumably get shafted for a share of the extension costs on top of current SMC payments.
None of these look particularly attractive from our POV.
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"You're being naive. The amount we pay would be dwarfed by income for city if they get back in the premiership and there is no such thing as a watertight tenancy agreement'"
Not naive at all mate. As Mrs B has just highlighted there are a number of options open should anything happen with the KC.
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| Quote old frightful="old frightful"I've said before, elsewhere, that IMO the only reason the Allams rescued Hull City was to give themselves chance to own the KC and develop the land around there.
The publication of the HDM with them on the front, purporting to be holding plans up of a new stadium out at Melton, was laughable IMO and an attempt to put the possible sale in the minds of the council.
Hull City Council spent £47million building that stadium, it's less than ten years' old, and I bet they'd only get around a third of that in the sale.
I do worry when one of the first things a new incoming council leader says is "We'll let the people of Hull decide whether to sell the KC or not."
Sounds to me like he fancies running a council with some cash to play with.'"
Spot On
I don't believe his "I'm doing this for the people of hull"
He may be worth so many millions but how much has he got in the bank and what would happen if his business went under
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| Quote Big Dave T="Big Dave T"Not naive at all mate. As Mrs B has just highlighted there are a number of options open should anything happen with the KC.'"
I meant naive to believe we're in a strong position because we have a tenancy agreement. they could lock us out and the only recourse we would have would be a long and expensive legal battle
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| Quote Mrs Barista="Mrs Barista"What are the scenarios here? I'm assuming that City and FC are the only clubs involved as Rovers are progressing their own ground.
1) Allams don't buy KC stadium as council declines. Allams build a stadium at Melton for City only. FC left as sole tenants at KC with probably inaffordable costs.
2) Allams don't buy KC stadium as council declines. Allams build a stadium at Melton for City and FC to share. KC stadium left as white elephant.
3) Allams buy KC stadium for City to use only. FC compensated but need to build own stadium.
4) Allams buy KC stadium for continued use by both clubs. FC presumably get shafted for a share of the extension costs on top of current SMC payments.
None of these look particularly attractive from our POV.'"
Scenario 5) Call his bluff. Don't sell. Allam will be refused the Melton development due to planning restraints and can't afford it anyway. The whole point of buying the KC is to give him borrowing power. The status quo is maintained.
I feel scenario 4 is the most likely outcome, though. Trouble ahead depending on how much Brady wants to sell and how gullible the people of Hull are... oh dear.
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| The last scenario (no sell, Allan can't afford to build) I think is equally likely
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| What some poster are forgetting To build a Sports Centre
He will want the land around the K C Stadium
Will the people of the area want West Park turned into the Sports
Centre ..Its not just Hull City/Hull FC its other Business that will have a say
that pay rent to the Council that share land around the K C ..
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| Another option buys KC, keeps both City and us with current terms. Mortgages stadium so City can by Christiano Ronaldo. Fails to keep up payments on said mortgage and both teams are up the creek looking for a paddle. Scary times ahead if the council agree.
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| The referendum is an interesting idea to a difficult problem , but IMO it is a bit of a sloping shoulder option from the elected politicians.
Additionally , what would the voting turn out be like - typically IIRC around 35% of the electorate vote in Hull Council elections , such an issue may well have an even poorer level of interest.
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