Your first post was spot on, Digby. HKR have had numerous handouts over the years with the sale of the old CP and being given the school field at way, way below market value being the most glaring. The fans should be asking what happened to all the money from the financial wheeling and dealing on that occasion.

If they can get 10,000 signatures on a petition why can they not get 10,000 fans?

About £50 million of central government money has been pumped (or dumped into the east around Preston Road that is without local redevelopement money and the will be getting quite a lot from the Building Schools for the Future pot.

Have you seen the Freedom Centre with all its computers etc. etc. and free events etc. etc. How much money do they want?

Its deliberately a generalisation. Those points were definitely considerations for people, but IMO, the war and the recession were the two [imajor [/i (or put another way, "largely"icon_wink.gif issues for Labour in the last election.

And unemployment particularly hasn't been helped by said recession, in which ironically the UK performed very well in. Just behind Canada in second place I believe of the "G" nations.

And Labour, through programs like BSF which the Tories have just put the sword too, were trying to improve schools while maintaining jobs in the infrastructure industry.

Correct, no one wants wars but someone has to deal with these things as usual the same faces, as for the worldwide economic issues its true few parties would survive such aa collapse but especially wwhen the labour party were generally regarded as one of the instigators of the whole thing in the first place!!

and Gordon brown himself was the worst possible public figure you could have ever have imagined ... a very senior party member ( who lives very close to Hull) said in conversation a wee while ago at a function on my table " if tony blair had been a pirate he could have walked the plank and never hit any water on the way down" he knew the right time to jump off the ship thats for sure!!"

I think we cut this here. It was lucky to have got going in the first place as it's about Rovers and not Hull but now it has gone into politics too.

Rovers board for their issues and the Sin Bin for politics.

Cheers.