In the cases of Washbrook, Hall, Lee etc maybe its just because they are just not goood enough to be anything other then bit part SL players. id still love to earn a living how they do along with the likes of Wheeldon, G Horne, Higgins and Dixon at Cas amongst others

As for Berrigan he had the unfortunate situation of replacing a modern day FC legend in Richard Swain, imo Cam Smith apart, nobody in the world could have replaced Swainy. In Berro's 1st 2 seasons with us he was our best player despite niggling injuries and been played all over the park. I really hope he steps upto the plate in the next few weeks with Longy missing.

What about these young players Hull have brought through in the not to distant past ie

Briscoe - England international and will only get better

Houghton - Really stepped up his game last few weeks, dark horse for England end of season imo

Horne R, King, Yeaman - All played for GB whilst at Hull

Cooke - with his talent should have gone to play for GB, more his fault then Hulls

Dowes, Raynor, Carvell - All played representative footie after been discarded by Leeds.

Could maybe add Shaun Briscoe to that - yeah, he must have learnt a lot under Radlinski, but showed true class with us.

Mmmmmm I was thinking the same thing.

Craig Hall - attitude
Tommy Lee - attitude
Danny Washbrook - he's a ball playing 13, we don't play with a ball playing 13 and he is ineffective at 6.
Berrigan - forced to play 7 at numerous times when we had injuries, and has had injuries himself. Not been as bad as some have made out.

Craig Hall - attitude
Tommy Lee - attitude
Danny Washbrook - he's a ball playing 13, we don't play with a ball playing 13 and he is ineffective at 6.
Berrigan - forced to play 7 at numerous times when we had injuries, and has had injuries himself. Not been as bad as some have made out.'"

i agree with all of that. But part of the question i asked was do u think it is due to our injuries, especially with hall washbrook and berrigan. Lee u may have a point but i think hall has a good attitude but due to being played out of position he may be frustrated.

I am no troll by the way. Just curious. Can i add whiting to the list as well...very good player but hasnt reached his potential because he plugs all the injuries.'"

i think you only have to look at the players who have played their 'proper' positions to see how that helps development alot more than playing to fill a hole. Danny houghton is a fine example of this. And i certainly think that berrigan washbrook and hall would all show up better had they had prolonged time in their specialist position.